Weezl's phase 1- recipe testing and frugalisation- come one, come all!

vandanfc

I am not a vegan, but thought that comments from others had suggested that it had to be "truly" vegan otherwise not worth doing and unfortunately budget would HAVE to increase.

So Weezl the choice is yours I think, compromise on the money to be true to vegans or compromise the vegans, who possibly won;t go anywhere near the plan if it isn't "real". Just my thoughts.!

weezl74 wrote: »

murrell, if you're still around!

vegan question: if planner 3 is true vegan, should I only look for veg society approved goods, I fear that might not be doable in budget...

I was thinking of planner 3 being mostly vegan, but I wonder if that's going to be perceived as a cop out!

example: tescos own version of ready brek contains calcium carbonate, but we don't know if this from animal sources.

however, this is also true of the calcium in bread flour, which is added by law but not listed as an ingredient.

Do you see my dilemma/confusion?!

xxx

vandanfc

Weezl do you have a current meal planner anywhere, as things have changed so much I have no real idea what the family are now eating.

If you have only got it rough, I could tidy it up and post it for you, if that would be helpful at all ?

Allegra

They were lovely ) Light, puffy, golden, just the right "bite" of herb and bacony saltiness. I guess I should have served them with potato salad, really, but although it turned out I had enough potatoes, they were a bit past their best, so while good enough for wedges, not really up to standard for a salad 8/10 from OH, 10/10 from me

I made a full batch - using one rasher of bacon - which meant we each had two, but with the spuds and beans or veg, it could have happily stretched to feed 4 at one each. Plus there is also the option of making smaller rounds, which could mean everyone in a family of 4 could have 2 each of the small ones, which might be an important psychological plus. Will definitely have again, thanks for the recipe !

A bit reluctant to post the photos, as I am so inept a photographer I could end up putting people off rather than enticing them in, but as I made the effort to snap away, I think I'll risk it

weezl74

vandanfc wrote: »

I am not a vegan, but thought that comments from others had suggested that it had to be "truly" vegan otherwise not worth doing and unfortunately budget would HAVE to increase.

So Weezl the choice is yours I think, compromise on the money to be true to vegans or compromise the vegans, who possibly won;t go anywhere near the plan if it isn't "real". Just my thoughts.!

thanks vanda

the nearly/mostly vegan was in order to have a fresh piece of fruit daily.

Fewer than 1% in both polls wanted true vegan sadly, so probably not worth lots of our effort at stage 1, I think.... But for the 20% of people who said that a piece of fresh fruit daily was a non-negotiable, then I think this nearly vegan one might be the way forward?

especially if we show that the calcium carbonate added to ready brek is just as likely not to be pure vegan as the stuff that's added to all white flour, pasta, bread in the uk by law since 1998 without being listed.

Does that make sense? Therecan't be a true vegan planner from asda since they can't give out the provenance of their calcium carbonate, so we'd be flour, pasta and bread-free if we went that route, so I think pretty much vegan is good enough.

I say this because I know 2 very principled vegans in real lifeand I know they use white flour from mr A and mr T, so I don't think it will deter even our 1% true vegans.

So that's my current reasoning and I think I'll run with it unless we have a large vegan outcry!:rotfl:

What do you think? does that sound like the best way to accomodate the most folk?

xxx

weezl74

weezl74 wrote: »

Hopefully, subject to Lesley and I thrashing out the intricacies on me spreadsheet, fingers crossed this is the months meal plan for dinners

Dinners:

delia tart x 2
sweetcorn fritters and HM wedges x 3
cauliflower cheese x 2
HM pizza x3
pasta alfredo x 3
risi e bisi x 3
cottage pie x 2
chilli x 2
spanish omelette x 2
tomato pasta bake x 1
veggie burgers x 1
bacon and onion suet pudding x1
spicey bean curry x 4
chicken and sweetcorn pie x 1
ROAST CHICKEN!!!!!!!!! x 1 :):):):):):):):):):):):):)

this one's still pretty much accurate vanda, mostly the delay is just because Lesley and I need to have a proper stock check when real life isn't interfering too much!

Does that help at all?

xxx

aless02

i've bought those before, weezl, and they are v similar in flavor iirc. I'm nota biologist so couldn't confirm they r identical though! Will try n remember to do some googling later.

vandanfc

Does the risi e bisi still use peas ? If so we have a problem Houston - none on the shopping list any more ???

weezl74

vandanfc wrote: »

Does the risi e bisi still use peas ? If so we have a problem Houston - none on the shopping list any more ???

does it not use marrowfats? Sorry allegra if I've been misreading it all this time

Allegra

No panic, marrowfats it is

Lesley_Gaye

weezl74 wrote: »

this one's still pretty much accurate vanda, mostly the delay is just because Lesley and I need to have a proper stock check when real life isn't interfering too much!

Does that help at all?

xxx

speaking of which, I can do anytime today, none on Wed, Thurs until 11.30 and after 2, Fri until 10 and after 12.30

any good? Would you like me to try and put the dinners in the spreadsheet or are there too many changes you want first. Anything I can progress?