Need a new Laptop.Should I choose a Mac?

TheSaint_2

Quite right. I personally don't pray to my computer

Marty_J

asininity wrote: »

Well since theres no examples of any of the priests arguments and he mentioned "morally wrong" and since he's a priest of the catholic persausion its only logical to assume that he believes in an objective morality as set out by his "god" and that anything that doesn't agree with that objective morality will be "wrong".

Since for the priest morality and wrong are set in stone, yeah he would say that because he's a priest, he has to. Bills arguments arent part of a discussion because that would assume "morality" and "wrong" are open to discussion for him, where its more likely and logical to assume that Bills arguments are to him statements of fact with no room for discussion on the subject. Daves dismissing of Bills arguments are valid on this basis.

If the priest said murdering someone is morally wrong, can you show that it isn't simply by pointing out he's a priest?

asininity

Marty_J wrote: »

If the priest said murdering someone is morally wrong, can you show that it isn't simply by pointing out he's a priest?

Depends who that someone is, what set of morals we're using, and whether the priest is wrong.

Generally yes you can because the priest has a flawed set of moral laws to work from because he is a priest, after all his god decides what is morally right and wrong.

For him is it morally right to cover up the child abuse of another priest? Is it morally wrong not to convert or slaughter non-beleivers?

I know what you're getting at but the example is flawed.

Marty_J

asininity wrote: »

Depends who that someone is, what set of morals we're using, and whether the priest is wrong.

Generally yes you can because the priest has a flawed set of moral laws to work from because he is a priest, after all his god decides what is morally right and wrong.

For him is it morally right to cover up the child abuse of another priest? Is it morally wrong not to convert or slaughter non-beleivers?

I know what you're getting at but the example is flawed.

But the issue of whether or not it is morally right to murder is a separate issue from him being a priest. Think about all of the things a priest is likely to believe. I'm sure there are a great many you would agree with.

Refutation of something like creationism was done through scientific enquiry. If we just dismissed it because "that's what you would say", we'd still be in the Dark Ages. Say I owned a company that invented a cure for cancer, and so I stood to make million if not billions. You couldn't say that it didn't work by pointing that I would say it cures cancer because I was going to make lots of money. Perhaps you'd be right to be cautious (after all, I do have a vested interest in it being a success), but to show it doesn't work, you'd need to look at the evidence.

Similarly, someone can't refute my opinion that Apple make very high quality products that are worth the money just by saying that I'm a fanboy so I would say that. My enthusiasm for Apple has no bearing on Apple's products, their quality, or their value.

For example, one of the things I like about Macs is that they come with iLife, which I think is a fantastic suite of applications. Someone who simply says I'm a brainwashed mactard, so my opinion has no validity is totally missing the point. They need to deal with the quality of the software, how easy it is to use, what you can do with it, how comparable it is to other similar software, what software you get with other computers, etc.

I'm flattered that some people think I can change reality just by thinking about it, but the truth is that my opinions have absolutely no effect on any of those things.

busenbust

Resist . I dare

Marty_J

How about this one?



Also, while I was looking for it, I came across this:





Check out the computer Uncle Fester uses for his presentations. :cool:

busenbust

...and Stupidity :rotfl: (j/k).

Whoa! Easy tiger! As you all know I am both a Windows and Snow Leopard user

Marty_J

busenbust wrote: »

Whoa! Easy tiger! As you all know I am both a Windows and Snow Leopard user

Looks like Steve Ballmer is too!

busenbust

Marty_J wrote: »

Looks like Steve Ballmer is too!

This could be a marketing disaster....Oops!

iPad! :rotfl:

....I must go 50/50

BillScarab

Marty_J wrote: »

How about this one?



Also, while I was looking for it, I came across this:





Check out the computer Uncle Fester uses for his presentations. :cool:

It's a very well known picture, why shouldn't he use a Mac? After all Microsoft don't make laptops and was he running OSX on it or Windows? Presumably he was using powerpoint for the presentation as well.

Of course there's a possibility it's a photoshop and given the headline on the slide doesn't seem to make a lot of sense that seems quite likely.