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University degree not worth as much as touted

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  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    edited 10 February 2010 at 4:20PM
    ninky wrote: »

    klaus ferdinand hemfling is a well known and wonderful classisist DRESSAGE rider...please understand there is classical dressage and COMPETITION dressage, and many shades of grey between. To tar us all with the same brush is neither accurate not helpful to the anti rollkur/blue tongue debate. In factthe most vehement drivers of anti rollkur, starting the petitions etc are......classical dressage riders!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppmnDUQDMis

    this is classical dressage Hempfling style. I find it utterly stunning (mch as I think blu hors matine's perfomance is smashing, hempfling is, personally, more in the style to which I aspire. Sometimes, classisists ride too, though ;)....hemfling riding his little chestnut...inteerting because the chestnut is small, is amazing, they ride tack free, with the rest of the herd riding with them. I ride with other horses loose, but I'm afraid when I do that its NEVER tack free...sometimes just a head collar , but rarely)
  • Lotus-eater
    Lotus-eater Posts: 10,789 Forumite
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    Some of those stories were true.
    Certainly were, I spent the next 5 years hanging round horse loving upperclass women because of that book.

    Good times :p
    Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.
  • ninky wrote: »
    nonsense. a foal gamboling and frolicing doesn't have a great big oaf sat on its back and a load of tackle all over it or require curb bits or spurs. what people will come up with to justify their cruel hobbies!

    You're not allowed spurs (or whips) during dressage IIRC.

    What level of tack and schooling would you call acceptable out of interest, ninky?
    They are an EYESORES!!!!
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    edited 10 February 2010 at 4:34PM
    You're not allowed spurs (or whips) during dressage IIRC.

    What level of tack and schooling would you call acceptable out of interest, ninky?


    yes you are. You are not allowed a whip in the ring. The link of blue horse matine clearly shows spurs, which are I beluieve requisite. However neither need nor should be punitive...

    edit: I think you can ride in dummy spurs though...there are regs about what shanks too, IIRC. I used to have dummies as a kid, and actually, they focus the mind. DH's lower leg is now stable and controlled enough to start work in dummy spurs. The riders for whom spurs are part of the outfit are of a standard, whether I like it or not, where they are able to control their lower legs.

    Monty Roberts ...who many ''kind'' horse people like also rides in spurs. His are made of rubber. I have never located a pair of those, but would like to try them.
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    You're not allowed spurs (or whips) during dressage IIRC.

    What level of tack and schooling would you call acceptable out of interest, ninky?

    personally, i think none. i'm not a saint and i have enjoyed going for a ride once or twice. but if i think about it rationally it is not morally justifiable. i'm sure there were slave owners who loved and cared for their slaves. and 'enjoyed' them. but that didn't make that right either.
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    Back on topic....in health and beauty this was just posted. I'm disgusted:


    I'm a mature student and I'm really jealous of the students who dont have part time jobs. I'd be in the library 40 hours a week if I could :rotfl:

    However, we have some real mingers at uni. We all got an email today regarding the student halls (I dont live in halls, just as well) to say that it was unacceptable for students to urinate and defecate in the corridors :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: I'd rub their f e c k ing noses in it, dirty barstewards!!!!

    I'll leave that delightful thought with you all while I go and have my bath :D
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    I'm a mature student and I'm really jealous of the students who dont have part time jobs. I'd be in the library 40 hours a week if I could :rotfl:

    However, we have some real mingers at uni. We all got an email today regarding the student halls (I dont live in halls, just as well) to say that it was unacceptable for students to urinate and defecate in the corridors :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: I'd rub their f e c k ing noses in it, dirty barstewards!!!!

    That is absolutely unbelievable. 40 hours a week in the library?
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    I had to go google Rollkur
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UwqyMCr_7c

    I have learnt a new thing today....................:o
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    fc123 wrote: »
    I had to go google Rollkur
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UwqyMCr_7c

    I have learnt a new thing today....................:o


    And ninky is right, its hideous, cruel and detrimental.....sorry you had to see it.:o (but sign the petitions to FEI please!)
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    And ninky is right, its hideous, cruel and detrimental.....sorry you had to see it.:o (but sign the petitions to FEI please!)


    The only thing I have ever read about dressage was in Black Beauty by Anna Sewell and I was about 9 I think. A customer from our ex shop did it as a hobby too...you know who I mean but I never ever chatted to her about it.
    To someone who knows little about horses, it just 'looks' wrong to me....very unatural.
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