University degree not worth as much as touted

fc123

lostinrates wrote: »

Everyone has a different view. Medicine, appropriately for this thread is as much art and science IMO (in fact I've been having a lot of half hearted beginnings of philosophical; discussions with myself about the separation of art and science...). This consultant is endocrinologist not a neurologist and new on the ''team''. I suppose I'll find out why when I go.

Not known really, not meant to be this good I'm a medical miracle. :D. Its doubtful though, that I'll ever be normal, and...I have little fear about not having a pension of my own....when I beat the odds DH will share his. :D:D

The problem is....only my GP really asks how I feel, which ultimately is the most impactful measure...not what looks good/doesn't...its how it feels and functions.

Anyway...boring....:o

My PC is doing funny things as I didn't see this post last night but I deff saw the Mr Brown one ?????? And PN's news too. I did refresh as well.

Not boring at all....fascinating in fact.. I believe you are a medical miracle too...and good job you are too.:D

misskool

fc123 wrote: »

Stevie J posted this on the QE thread...sit's well on this one too.
I have quoted a small bit.:o

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/jan/31/unemployed-graduates-credit-crunch-andrew-hankinson

I think it's a different outlook to life and the type of personality the person is. I've had plenty of jobs during uni where I would be overqualified for and found them most enjoyable. I've been a hotel chambermaid, a sales person in a homemade fudge shop and a lifeguard in a theme park.

When I was running out of funding to write up my thesis, I learnt matched betting (I learnt it so well, they made me a BG to atone for my sins :rotfl:) and didn't run out of money (and paid for this house deposit).

I didn't sit still and wait for something to happen. I didn't expect a job, I saw the problem (money) and went out and did it.

It's made me appreciate everything that I do get now. I always wonder why people think some jobs are beneath them.

Sapphire

Mr_Matey wrote: »

I'd love to study philosophy, languages or maybe something like Archaeology. I don't think such a degree would lead to a pay increase, or different career path, I just like to learn stuff like that.

The degrees I did do though, counted towards professional qualifications, got my foot in the door with my employer, and massively increased my earning potential.

Both types of degrees have value, but a lot of people don't use their degrees in their work, so you would hardly expect their earnings to be higher just because they have a degree.

I made a career in publishing first, by starting at the 'bottom' (and loving every minute of it, publishing being what it was then), on a very low wage, the type of work I do always having been more important to me than earning mega-bucks. I didn't have a degree then, and never missed it or regretted not having gone to university – I was not even sure what I wanted to do at that stage, although I knew that I loved books.

I did a four-year degree in archaeology years after that, while working, though I'd got a bit burnt out in publishing and decided to take it a little bit more easily when it came to work, without quitting altogether. (Of course I paid for the degree myself.) This studying was done mainly for pleasure, because of my fascination for the subject, although I had in mind that it might enable me to do more work in subject areas that I really enjoy. Never regretted this studying either. It opened out my mind enormously about many things – where we come from, what makes us tick, where Britain and the rest of Europe stands in relation to places like the Near East in historical terms, the marvels that were produced by ancient civilizations, and so on...

Mr.Mulla

IMO, having a degree doesn't mean that you will be successful in the line of work you chose, but you have a better chance of getting the best paid jobs available.

Asheron, that's not true. I have Filipino friends here and they don't have degrees but they were able to work for fastfood restaurants like McDonald's when they were in the Philippines. So what you're saying is not true. Get your infos correct before posting it, though.

Asheron

Mr.Mulla wrote: »

IMO, having a degree doesn't mean that you will be successful in the line of work you chose, but you have a better chance of getting the best paid jobs available.

Asheron, that's not true. I have Filipino friends here and they don't have degrees but they were able to work for fastfood restaurants like McDonald's when they were in the Philippines. So what you're saying is not true. Get your infos correct before posting it, though.

Having worked in Manila for 3 years I must be wrong.

When 100 people apply for Mc Donalds in Philippines, are they going to pick the best person for the job ?

Tarantado!

anewman

Mr.Mulla wrote: »

IMO, having a degree doesn't mean that you will be successful in the line of work you chose, but you have a better chance of getting the best paid jobs available.

It does if the line of work is precisely the same as your degree. For example if the job was producing academic style written reports on your own initiative, if you did well at University in this, this is likely to be reflected in job performance.

I only apply for jobs I am certain I could do well in, avoiding those I would definitely have difficulties with.

anewman

Kohoutek wrote: »

One very important way of comparing universities is by the quality of research they conducts. The Russell Group is a collective name for a group of universities that receive two thirds of all research funding in the UK. Basically, if you're got a 2:1 or better from one of these unis, you've got a good chance of securing a top job in your chosen profession.


University of Leeds

I have a first class degree from the University of Huddersfield (admittedly not considered a brilliant University, but I thought it was good, and all work marked at a first was sent off to be externally validated, so they weren't giving firsts away willy nilly). I also got a pass with merit at Masters that wasn't far off a distinction from University of Leeds. Still I am unemployed

carolt

When did you graduate, anewman?

And what was your degree in?

And what part of the country do you live in?

And what type of job are you looking for?


There are still jobs around ... depends where you are and how picky you are, I think.

StevieJ

misskool wrote: »

I think it's a different outlook to life and the type of personality the person is. I've had plenty of jobs during uni where I would be overqualified for and found them most enjoyable. I've been a hotel chambermaid, a sales person in a homemade fudge shop and a lifeguard in a theme park.

That reminds me of a tale a Polish friend told me, he had a job as a life guard when he was in the US, he had a guy working with him who couldn't even swim :eek:

StevieJ

Mr.Mulla wrote: »

IMO, having a degree doesn't mean that you will be successful in the line of work you chose, but you have a better chance of getting the best paid jobs available.

Asheron, that's not true. I have Filipino friends here and they don't have degrees but they were able to work for fastfood restaurants like McDonald's when they were in the Philippines. So what you're saying is not true. Get your infos correct before posting it, though.

Why change the habit of a lifetime