University degree not worth as much as touted

lostinrates

Mr.Brown wrote: »

. And accountancy is for people who like numbers.

Sesame Street residents?

Really2

carolt wrote: »

Well, I wasn't wrong, was I, chucky - you and Really don't have degrees. As has become apparent on this thread.

Have I lost some kind of social right and should jack in my well paid job for a graduate?

I worked hard carol while others were at uni to get where I am, sorry if a non-grad can also cut it. But for the record I have never said any one has or does not have a degree on what they say on here.

We only have your word you have one, perhaps I am to honest?

Really2

Mr.Brown wrote: »

And accountancy is for people who like numbers.

No its for people who like to hide things.

SingleSue

bouche wrote: »

You're overqualified Sue!! I'ts not a new phenomenom but in this climate, where, jobs are scarse and few, you'll find it hard to gain employment. Things aren't like they were when you could even walk into a retail outlet on a Friday and start on MOnday.

The main concern about older workers keeping thier jobs isn't that they're not capable, but taking up opportunities from the young jobless.

Lmao! Over qualified? I keep being told I am under qualified as I don't have 5 GCSE's, let alone no A Levels or a degree.

Doesn't matter I have several 'O' Levels, nope, they like you to have GCSE's (had one 'discussion' with HR for a company who wanted to check the qualifications before sending out an application form, she asked what qualifications do you have, I told her and she said "Sorry, you need at least 5 GCSE's", I tried to explain that I am too old to have GCSE's and that my 'O' Levels was the old style quali but she wasn't having any of it! It reminded me of the computer says no thing )

The last time I worked in retail was a part time job when I was 14...

Still at least this 'break' is allowing me to get more qualified, I now have an ECDL, a counselling qualification (to cover a base for working in schools) and now a legal qualification too (which is higher than an A level) plus the degree is underway.

Asheron

Cleaver wrote: »

Does the numberplate say: A5H3RON

Haha no you would not find me at a Church

misskool

StevieJ wrote: »

I bet they could spell though

Undergraduates can't spell nowadays. Word has spellcheck.

niccatw

SingleSue wrote: »

I now have an ECDL, a counselling qualification (to cover a base for working in schools) and now a legal qualification too (which is higher than an A level) plus the degree is underway.

:rotfl:I can't believe they're quizzing you about O levels/GCSEs when you have the above! Either they're scard of your qualifications or they're too young to ever have heard of O levels. :eek:

It's all a bit bizarre really. When I applied for my second degree, I had to go through individual and group interviews, plus submit a piece of timed written working "because I'd been out of education" (for a whole 2 years -shock horror!) I think I was 24ish at the time... none of the girls (my profession is very female dominated ) coming straight from school had to do that. Boo!

fc123

GDB2222 wrote: »

"A recent report said that students graduating with arts degrees earned barely more than those who left school at 18. "

Art degrees (as in Fine Art, Textiles etc) can lead to gainful, well paid employment. Every time you select a wallpaper, cushion, jacket or greetings card, someone, somewhere designed it first...and generally from from the country it is sold in...then it's manufactured off shore.

The problem is that are way too many colleges and courses @ degree level in these subjects. Every year thousands graduate and discover that there are only jobs for a minority of students.
I employed a shop manager who had completed a 4 yr degree in textiles and specialised in weaving. We no longer have a weaving industry. There's a bit of top end in Italy which is where she did her sandwich year....but next to nothing that can employ in the UK.

She came to me after spending a year running a cafe post uni.

I did some guest lecturing and set 'trade' projects at my old college a few years back. I am going to be a bit mean here but they were 2nd years and only 2 or 3 had any flair, good practical skills and a strong work ethic. I think there were about 30 in total.

I had issues with the marking system too...only 10% of the mark was on execution of the idea (the most important part IMO ) and loads (30%?) on ''research''...outside collegeland the end customer doesn't care where what design references created the garment.

I believe (~no link as anecdotal..I read it somewhere) in Garment design there are only enough relevant (actual design and make) vacancies for about 2% of all grads...many end up in retail and they could have done that from the sales floor up post 16.

I advise anyone who wants to do my job to go to one of the top 3 arts colleges only.

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Hey Asheron......I am desp to know what do you 'do'...apart from spreading the word of course.

moggylover

Radiantsoul wrote: »

I think most people go into accountancy and law for the money!

I'm sure that will be a part of it (and I can't imagine anyone enjoying being an accountant tbh:D) but I think they will also be working to their own skills and interests in doing so;)

My lads have both been told to look at what they are good at in school, and what they actually enjoy doing, and then at what they can use that for in the future, what it entails, and whether they would enjoy the end job. Thinking about what is a "good little earner" first and ones interest second would not be good sense imo:o.

As a personal aside, I did two degrees in (related) subjects that interested me greatly, I didn't really look at what those subjects would be of use for (:o:o) and once I was employed within the best related field I found it a terribly depressing and "heavy" place to be most of the time. Whilst studying the subjects I was very happy though, and I wish now that I had gone on to do a masters and become a full-time lecturer (although in those days that was the lesser paid job in many cases) rather than applying the knowledge.

Pobby

Given that I don`t fall out with the people I have drawn customers to, there is no reason that I should not carry on what I do into retirement. That would be interesting because I wouldn`t have to draw on any form of retirement benefit, not even the state pension.
However, I also have as fall back ( still got a few years to do before retirement ) the local taxi knowledge, got that a decade ago between businesses, always worth a few bob. Also studying a computer certification. Picked up some years ago that if you are self employed it`s possible to do quite well using different skills to earn a few bob.

I am also in the process of doing an e-commerce course and already I am talking to a California based e-company regarding a UK distribution deal. Got to keep the old brain cells ticking.