University degree not worth as much as touted

Cleaver

lostinrates wrote: »

Round here there is a guy who goes EVERYWHERE on an ancient tractor. Its his working tractor (small farm) and his car. I've even seen it parked at church, and often at the pub:eek:, and supermarket. No point in him having a car, he says.....fuel tax costs. I do wonder if it would cost any more for him to have a fuel efficient run about, even after tax and insurance.

Does the numberplate say: A5H3RON

Mr.Brown_4

niccatw wrote: »

Perhaps it's Seasick Steve? He started out with nothing and still has most of it left.

I'm guessing he perhaps doesn't have a degree - but he can play the banjo!

Seasick probably does have a degree. Check out his guitar playing, uses all the fingers despite only three strings. Habit you see, the habit of an average blues player who found an angle. Hobo / hillbilly - my @ss. But watch the students lap it up.

snugglepet20

StevieJ wrote: »

I wonder which Uni Florence and Mary went to

I don't see why everyone is so against nurses being highly qualified, they are professionals. Medicine has evolved drastically in the past 50 years never mind way back in Florence and Mary's day when they basically couldn't cure anything. They have people to do bed baths and take people to the toilet called healthcare assistants and there needs to be more of them to free nurses up to concentrate on proper medical procedures and treatment.
If you have ever been in hospital and waited an eternity for medication because the nurses were run off their feet you will know where I am coming from and I'm sure no one wants an unqualified nurse doing their morphine drip!
As for the suggestion that doctors should be doing all the medical treatment dream on :rotfl:, the house doctors are used like slaves as it is covering 80+ patients each and more at night and the consultants only roll in off the golf course every few days to do rounds.
Also it takes 3 years to train a nurse and they typically earn £25k and 10 to train a doctor and they earn £80k + so it is more cost effective to utilise nurses as much as possible.

bouche

niccatw wrote: »

Perhaps it's Seasick Steve? He started out with nothing and still has most of it left.

I'm guessing he perhaps doesn't have a degree - but he can play the banjo!

He'd love BBC radio 2 now with the celtic "Oscars" going on, he'd envy every banjo player on earth!":T

moggylover

lostinrates wrote: »

If I were recruiting I'd also chose people who were funny, and preferably either attractive or stylish. Or both.

DH's interview for current job was mainly about his life outside work. The qualifications count as a filter: but the personality, the ability to be part of a team and to be a capable communicator and someone colleagues and clients can relate to was the clincher. And he has pretty eyes.

NOW I know what I have been doing wrong:(

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

StevieJ

snugglepet20 wrote: »

I don't see why everyone is so against nurses being highly qualified, they are professionals. e.

I think there is a potential concern that like many 'professionals' some nurses care more about the next step on the promotion ladder than looking after the patient. BTW can we get those cute Barbara Windsor like uniforms back does wonders for the moral of the patients (well the male ones anyway)

moggylover

mitchaa wrote: »

Of course there are other professions that stand out but the doctor route is structured and guarantees a high salary.

Accountancy and even a law degree does not. It's a dog eat dog world and they are not all highly paid. Infact, many solicitors/accountants earn ordinary £30-£35k salaries so nothing earth shattering. When I was at school, all the girls wanted to become psychologists and all the guys wanted to become graphic designers. They are 10 a penny now though and there are at least 20 people fighting for every job available in those professions.

Medical is a safe guaranteed route is all that I was getting at.

There is one thing that I am afraid you are missing out on here! Money is NOT everything in a job and if your son really has a hankering to do Law or Accountancy then you are doing both him and yourself a serious diservice!

The hardest work anyone can ever do is the job they hate;) The money won't make it better!

When my DS was very tiny and I was setting up an insurance policy the broker asked me what I wanted my lad to be when he grew up (he was really only trying to sell me another policy:D) and he was totally gobsmacked when I promptly answered "happy"!

On the subject of degrees - it is pretty obvious really that when only 2% of the population had them then those with them were going to be pretty sought after! Once that number goes up dramatically - then the "sought after factor" lessens!

Not rocket science really, and I didn't even need to use either of my degrees to work it out:rotfl:

I REALLY think we need a return to other forms of further education and a much broader view of what peoples skills and talents are.

niccatw

StevieJ wrote: »

BTW can we get those cute Barbara Windsor like uniforms back does wonders for the moral of the patients (well the male ones anyway)

Are you sure they wouldn't forget their morals altogether? :rotfl:

StevieJ

moggylover wrote: »

On the subject of degrees - it is pretty obvious really that when only 2% of the population had them then those with them were going to be pretty sought after! Once that number goes up dramatically - then the "sought after factor" lessens!

Not rocket science really, and I didn't even need to use either of my degrees to work it out:rotfl:

I REALLY think we need a return to other forms of further education and a much broader view of what peoples skills and talents are.

I think the 2% will still be sought after, a large number of the rest are being sold an expensive delusional lemon, mucho debt and no better opportunities than 'A' levels a generation before.

SingleSue

chucky wrote: »

i'd say it was telling people who haven't got a degree that they've not got a chance in getting a good job or even being able to spell properly.... are you saying that's a correct statement?

it's funny that i know numerous people with degrees from good universities like oxford or cambridge that earn less money than others who didn't go to university...

The way I see Carolt's posts about this is pretty much the same as me.....I AM having trouble getting even to the interview stage because I don't have a degree, hell, I'm getting turned down because I don't have 5 GCSE's, only O Levels (too blooming old to have GCSE's!)

Jobs which I can do standing on my head whilst eating a chocolate egg are asking for at least A Levels..something which was not required at all when I started out in work life.

This is in the line of work where I have years of experience, know the ropes etc...and qualifications are not really needed to be able to do it.