University degree not worth as much as touted

anewman

I haven't seen any benefit from my first class degree, and masters degree, other than I've been given interviews for jobs I'd never dreamed of getting an interview for without. Because I have Asperger Syndrome (which is classed as a disability) I find interviews very difficult, and have yet to find an understanding employer that will give me a chance. I even get knocked back from lesser jobs like supermarket jobs, presumably because whichever version I present I am either overqualified, or am too lazy (if I say I've done nothing over the past few years). So I have all these debts and no way of paying them off.

It's nice knowing I have achieved something, but it's all meaningless if it doesn't help me do something positive in anyway after it.

bendix

Asheron wrote: »

In the Philippines there are so many people without jobs they recruit people with Degree's first.

You need a degree there to work in Mc Donalds

The philippines was once the richest country in Asia

The danger of making bold statements like this, is that you might be contradicted by someone who know what they are talking about.

I have hired people in the Philippines. Probably 20-30 in total. I was involved in the establishment of a shared services centre for a large global law firm there and in total we hired 450 people, although the team I managed there was much smaller.

Despite having a policy of paying 250% of the average local salary for comparable jobs, we had no interest in the degree status or not of applicants, knowing quite a fair bit about the local university system.

I can't remember the exact figures but around 40% of staff had no degrees and - because of the salary issue mentioned already - they were doing very very well by local standards.

So your comment about MacDonalds is palpable nonsense.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

donaldtramp wrote: »

The problem is far too many mickey mouse arts degrees.
What value do they create? A huge number of the art degees seem to have been dreamt up simply to allow Labour to get 50% of our population into university.
It is ludicrous to dumb down our higher education simply to hit targets.
Why on Earth do we need qualifications in "hotel management" and "tourism," "sports science" etc etc?

It's very easy to denigrate the subjects you name, but today's 17 year olds may look at the world around them and notice where money appears to be; celebrity magazines, digital technology and new media, all forms of advertising, and the cash sloshing around the Premier League would suggest that Sports Science could well be lucrative. It's not as though tourism and global travel is dying on it's ar5e either. So although many of these subjects may not be obviously academic, they probably have a high practical and vocational content and an obvious industry to aim for. Whether the type of institutions that offer such training could still be called universitites is a moot point, but those who apply for some of these courses in good faith shouldn't be written off as Mickey Mouse losers.

Mr_Matey

Mr.Brown wrote: »

Law is an opportunity to uphold our legal system, or challenge it, to right wrongs, to defend the state or the individual, to constantly challenge and redefine the very rules of our civilised society.

:rotfl:
Did a lawyer tell you that?

Really2

Mr_Matey wrote: »

:rotfl:
Did a lawyer tell you that?

If Mr Browns quote was true no one guilty would have anyone to defend them.

Mr_Matey

Really2 wrote: »

If Mr Browns quote was true no one guilty would have anyone to defend them.

But it does make a great catchphrase if Marvel were thinking of a Lawyerman Superhero.

The_White_Horse

i didn't go to a top top uni, but i went to a decent one. now, younger cousins of mine and my wife's are getting into top universities and they are as thick as sh t. its unbelievable. in my day they would have been laughed out the campus.

and i mean really thick. these are people with lots of cash who were chucked out of two schools because they couldn't cope (not bad behaviour - just an academic inability) and they end up at top top universities????? !!!!!! is that all about???

lostinrates

donaldtramp wrote: »

The problem is far too many mickey mouse arts degrees.
What value do they create? A huge number of the art degees seem to have been dreamt up simply to allow Labour to get 50% of our population into university.
It is ludicrous to dumb down our higher education simply to hit targets.
Why on Earth do we need qualifications in "hotel management" and "tourism," "sports science" etc etc?
M Mouse degrees are wasting years of peoples lifes and at the end, all they will have acheived is masses of student debt and no job prospects.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/6754287/A-university-degree-is-worth-2500-a-year.html


Plus their debts
Scrap all these nonsencical arts degrees and save the country a fortune.
I read an another article (can't find it) that showed that if you take an arts degree, your lifetime earnings are actually LESS than if you started working at age 17/18!!
What's the point? Scrap them.

I would have thought sports science was, by definition, not an arts degree?

donaldtramp

I would have thought sports science was, by definition, not an arts degree?

Maybe not an arts degree but definately a Mickey Mouse degree.

Really2

donaldtramp wrote: »

Mickey Mouse degree.

Would that not be History of Characterised Art Degree.