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Xbox 360 Flashing To Play Back Up Games???

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  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    marleyboy wrote: »
    I ment actual government legislation, not what some site 'thinks' it knows
    :idea:
  • marleyboy
    marleyboy Posts: 16,698 Forumite
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    Can you post a link to back that up please?

    You asked for the link, of which I have posted you.

    I am not interested in scouring the internet for government legislation's for you as I stick with the morality behind the "potential" of illegal activity, and I repeat. MSE does not condone illegal activities and therefore will not promote the "intention" to committing crime, for obvious reasons.

    Therefore discussing the hows and wheres of any potential illegal activity is NOT ALLOWED on the MSE forums.
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  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    Fair enough, I cant be bothered either. But id certainly like to get to the bottom of it all the same...........
    :idea:
  • Bruciebonus
    Bruciebonus Posts: 244 Forumite
    edited 30 January 2010 at 6:51PM
    Thanks marleyboy
    aliEnRIK wrote: »
    Can you post a link to back that up please?
    Maybe he just cant be bothered,same as you couldnt be bothered posting a link to dispute it?
    DOH!
    If organized religion is the opium of the masses, then disorganized religion is the marijuana of the lunatic fringe.
  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    Thanks marleyboy


    Maybe he just cant be bothered,same as you couldnt be bothered posting a link to dispute it?
    DOH!

    How can I dispute something if I cant prove or disprove either way?
    Just because certain sites say its legal doesnt mean it actually is
    All I want to see is the ACTUAL law out in front of me
    :idea:
  • marleyboy
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    Anti-Piracy

    Copyright Law

    • Computer Software is defined as a Literary Work
    • Infringement of Copyright is NOT just a civil issue
    • You do NOT have to sell copied software to breach the Law
    • Directors of companies can be personally charged and risk up to 10 years imprisonment
    Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988

    The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 states: The owner of the copyright has the exclusive right to copy the work (Section 16). That means it is illegal to copy software without the copyright owner's permission. With regard to software, the copyright owner is the software developer / publisher. Breaking the law could have serious consequences for you and the organisation you work for, threatening both your own and your employer's reputation and future prosperity.
    • The legal penalties include unlimited fines and up to ten years in prison following the Copyright, etc and Trade Marks (Offences and Enforcement) Act 2002.
    • Personally, you could lose your reputation, promotion prospects or even your job.
    • There are no mitigating circumstances and no organisation would condone or defend either illegal copying or the use of unauthorised software.
    • Your organisation and directors could face a police investigation.
    Major Points
    • A software licensee never takes ownership of the copyright in the software; he merely purchases a licence to use the protected software under the terms and conditions set by the copyright owner and the law.
    • Copyright exists in a work from the moment it is recorded
    • Remedies for civil copyright infringement may include damages to compensate the copyright owner for damage caused to his business.
    • Criminal penalties can include unlimited fines and up to ten years in prison
    • The rental of software is illegal without the express permission of the copyright holder.
    • If an organisation is using illegal copies of software the organisation may face not only a civil suit, but corporate officers and individual employees may have criminal liability.
    • No one is exempt from copyright law. All individuals, organisations and government agencies are subject to the law.
    • Web publication or other internet-based publication does not take a work outside the realm of copyright law: you still need the copyright owner's permission to publish their work regardless of the publication medium.
    • Ignorance of the Law does not excuse infringement.
    Avoid Buying Illegal Software
    • Make sure you keep your licences in electronic or paper format - these are valuable documents.
    • Buy from reputable dealers.
    • Obtain a written quotation listing hardware/software specification and version.
    • Ask for an itemised invoice giving details of all hardware and software supplied.
    • Do not allow dealers to visit your home and install software directly onto your computer without providing licences etc.
    • Remember even Shareware will require to be purchased or deleted after the evaluation period.
    • If possible go to a recommended dealer.
    • Make sure that you understand that "bundled" software may come pre-installed on your computer and you may not receive media.
    • If in doubt ASK FOR HELP.

    http://www.fastiis.org/our_services/education/TheLaw/
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  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    Ive found this ~
    http://www.out-law.com/page-5633

    "This guide is based on UK law. It was last updated in August 2008."

    "

    How are computer programs dealt with?

    Following the coming into force of the Copyright (Computer Programs) Regulations, which implemented the EC Directive on the Protection of Computer Programs, in 1993, computer programs are protected on the same basis as literary works. Therefore provided the program is original its author will have the exclusive right to copy the program, issue copies to the public, demonstrate the program to the public, and adapt or translate the program.
    Converting a copyright program into or between computer languages and codes will normally constitute an 'adaptation' of the work. Similarly, storing a copyright work in a computer amounts to 'copying' the work, and running a computer program or displaying work on a VDU will usually involve copying. Any such use will therefore require the consent of the copyright owner unless it falls within an exception.
    Certain specific exceptions apply in relation to computer programs, including:
    • Making back-ups of computer programs which are necessary for the purposes of lawful use of the program.
    • Copying the program in the course of decompiling it.
    • Observing, studying or testing the functionality of a program in the course of lawful loading, displaying, running, transmitting or storing of the program.
    • Copying or adapting the program, provided the person copying or adapting is the lawful user and the copying or adapting is necessary and is not prohibited by any term or condition of an agreement regulating the circumstances of lawful use.""
    So the way I see it is its illegal unless you get 'actual permission' from the copyright holder to be allowed to make a backup
    :idea:
  • marleyboy
    marleyboy Posts: 16,698 Forumite
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    Interesting ;)
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    "Marleyboy you are a legend!"
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    Marleyboy speaks sense
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  • aliEnRIK wrote: »
    Crazy as it sounds, its actually illegal to backup your games
    An you claimed it was also commen knowledge that it was illigal......that sound like your disputing it to me!
    If organized religion is the opium of the masses, then disorganized religion is the marijuana of the lunatic fringe.
  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    An you claimed it was also commen knowledge that it was illigal......that sound like your disputing it to me!

    When I said 'common knowledge' I was talking about those people that have actually had a look at 'the law' and not just gone of what some websites 'think' they know

    If you can prove via english law its legal then please do so
    :idea:
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