MSE Parents Club Part 10

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((hugs)) harley .. hope you're both better soon xxxxx

harley1

Thanks Tia.

I think freud would have a field day with me today. I got her a couple of presents to make myself feel better about leaving her, one of which is a book called 'you're not my mummy'. Separation anxiety anyone? lol.

SusanC_2

Buttonmoons wrote: »

True, but then all the children would be around the same age, and capable of copying or listening too instructions. Having to stop mid sentence to remove a toddler from bin scavenging (oooh biscuit wrapper!) or to go change a dirty nappy, is kinda different.

:rotfl: at the bit in bold. (And my toddler is actually easier to control than a lot of school children.) In a typical lesson in school, a certain amount of time is wasted with classroom management either just from organising a large number of people or from misbehaviour etc. Then for the whole class work, only about 50% is going to be at the right level for a given child (unless they are near the top or bottom in which case at least 90% is probably a waste of time). You then send them to do independent work but the work is set at three different ability levels so one group have to sit and wait doing nothing while you are setting the other two groups their work. If the teacher does what they are supposed to do and works with a different group each day then the bottom group do no work most days because they can't manage without support. (I used to work with the bottom group every day and just pop round to make sure the other children were getting on okay.) Some children miss what they were supposed to be doing so they don't get the work done but then the next day they move onto something else. Because you are supposed to all be doing the same thing at the same time, some children are wasting their time because they already know the stuff and others are wasting their time because things have progressed too fast. My mum (who is actually against home education) said she doesn't think I learned anything in Primary School. She taught me to read/write/do maths etc. before I went to school and she still taught me things after I went to school and it wasn't very labour intensive. She said often I would come out with things and when she said, "Did you learn that at school?", I would say, "No I read it in a book." I'm not saying that nobody learns anything at school or that it is always better to home educate or that teachers are rubbish but based on my own experiences of learning at home and at school and of teaching, I am convinced that home educating can be a much more effective way of educating than schools.

Buttonmoons wrote: »

Plus most classes have assistants too, and (this isn't a dig or anything) I don't see how your child could be very sociable, when they are getting 1 on 1 attention all the time, where as in school, they learn the world doesn't revolve around them, plus they have structured play with friends they make etc.

Alice is fairly confident and sociable already. (More outgoing and sociable than me actually!) People at church all think she's got really advanced speech but I think it's just that she is very sociable and goes round talking to all the adults whereas the other children don't. (Sadly she doesn't get much social interaction with the children closest to her age at church as most of them are not very sociable but I'm hoping they will become more sociable when they get older.) We have friends who are planning to home school too so will be able to join up with them for some things if we want to. We're just starting to look into what activities she can do to provide social interaction with other children so are thinking of gymnastics (because there's a club quite near us) and looking into whether there's Rainbows or anything locally. I certainly wouldn't be giving one on one time all the time (and it would be quite difficult to do that anyway if I have more children) - it isn't something I do now for exactly the reason you give: they need to know that the workd doesn't revolve around them.

Buttonmoons wrote: »

I hated school, but I know at the end of the day, Keira will do much better there than at home with me. I'm just here to talk about foofs, elephant wllys and blood :rotfl:

Home education isn't for everyone and we all have to make the choice we think is best for our family.

emlou2009 wrote: »

Susan and Feelie (and anyone else considering it), may I ask why you would prefer your LO's to be home schooled? I was badly bullied at school, my mum was in a wheelchair, my parents had split up, I wore glasses and was fat, so I didnt exactly get an easy time of it! But I still wouldnt consider home schooling Seth, and I feel that personally I would be depriving him of the interaction skills he would learn there, given that he is an only child and is likely to be until school age (AF is visiting after all this month, thank god!!) Aside from that, I would rather a teacher taught him, as I would think that once he got a bit older I would be lost on trying to teach him things like algebra and stuff, I didnt understand it at school so no way would I be able to teach it! How would you get around that?

Just want to say that I have seen your question and will answer it but haven't got time at the moment. (Just so you know I'm not ignoring it.)

Dontknowanymore

Hi everyone
Thanks for being there last night, just think I needed to offload to someonecos I feel sooooo much better today
Aston had a brilliant first day at school, my housing forms came and I had a good visit from my SW.

Also tongiht got a bit of good news, Mum is giving me £4k!
I'm going to buy a car then put the rest away for when I get my new place!

OMG I'm crying,that little bubba x

SugarSpun

That is interesting Sami, thank you.

Poor Kezia, poor Harley I hope she feels better tomorrow.

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Dontknowanymore wrote: »

Hi everyone
Thanks for being there last night, just think I needed to offload to someonecos I feel sooooo much better today
Aston had a brilliant first day at school, my housing forms came and I had a good visit from my SW.

Also tongiht got a bit of good news, Mum is giving me £4k!
I'm going to buy a car then put the rest away for when I get my new place!

OMG I'm crying,that little bubba x

thats what we're here for ma dear ... glad astons day went well and everything else sounds good .. although you have an extremely lovely mother x

tiamai_d

awww Harley!!! (((HUGE HUGS)))

She is still your baby and you are still her one and only MUMMY! But mummies have a bad time, cos we got to do things we don't like to care for our babies, and if that means leaving her so you can work and give her a good life, then you do it. Don't feel guilty about doing your best for her.

DKAM, great news about the gift!

Glamazon

harley1 wrote: »

Oh, no. your all talking about that OBEM that I wanted to watch this week.

But I got a poorly bubba. Very sick and went everywhere. Didn't realise such a little person could hold so much liquid.

As if I didn't feel bad enough about her going to nursery this is the guilt trip she gives me:(
But reports were that she was very good and played lots and they sang to her and everything. Didn't take much more than an oz of her bottle but she had quite a lot from me before she went. Hope it goes as well on Thursday and she doesn't come home sicky again.

Aw poor Kezia, I am so not looking forward to going back

My baby is really unsettled again so I'm off to bed in case its a long night xx

tarajayne

(((Hugs ))) Harley, hope she's ok soon! XXX

harley1

I think I'll take Kezia up to bed too. She is still sleeping at the mo so I'm really hoping she stays that way so she is all better for her pixiphoto sesh tomorrow.

night all. xx