MSE Parents Club Part 10

tiamai_d

I've concerns about vaccines too, but like you say, you research it yourself, you don't go about collecting a mindless flock. And then to be proven wrong but still claim to be right...

She just gives people a bad name.

Glamazon

AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

I can't find the registration document for my car or my paper part of my licence!!!!

pigpen

You'll be surprised to hear only half of my children have been vaccinated.. The upper half.. before I looked into what was inthe mixes and the effects of those.

DS3 almost died after the first lot of jabs.. he weighed almost 5lb.. he had a massive reaction and was very ill and endedup in hospital and monitors and drips etc.. he developed an erratic heartbeat, a temp of 41'C which I couldn't get down, He wouldn't feed and just laid whimpering, if we touched him he would scream in pain.. We had the GP out twice who said it was 'within normal ranges of reaction'.. then when I took him to hospital they said if it had been any worse we'd have lost him.

I did the research after that and none of them had any after that... The 2 oldest girls did have the HPV one though.. I have a long family history of cervical cancer at a young age.. so decided any side effects would be countered by saving their lives potentially.

The MMR.. 4 had it and 4 didn't. 2 of the ones that did got measles, 1 of the ones that didn't got measles aged 17 weeks (2 weeks after she had chickenpox while being 100% breastfed..) .. only 1 has had rubella, just before christmas actually.. yet none of the other unvaccinated ones did. This is also grown on an egg based protein which DS3 is allergic to anyway.

All 8 have had chickenpox with no ill effect. I do think unless immuno compromised this is a waste of time vaccinating against, there are rarely complications.

OH and I are now disagreeing over vaccinating the baby.. I say no.. he says yes.. I say research it.. he says it doesn't matter.. we will never agree.. but I will get my own way.. I can be a brat lol

It is mainly the preservatives and bases I disagree with, the long term and side effects of these are pretty horrific.. from digestive disorders and allergies to brain damage and cancers.. you wouldn't eat food with half this stuff in and you certainly wouldn't feed it to a tiny baby!!

emlou2009

Havent caught up at all and have only skim read the page, so am not ignoring people, just being very busy and self centred and taking a few minutes to just SIT with a cuppa

Have suddenly developed some sort of cleaning/hoovering addiction, very random. Have gone from hoovering once every couple of days to twice a day? And not quick once overs either, proper pulling furniture out hooverings. Odd.
Guess who has been given a nice 40% discount voucher for Peacocks to be used by next Saturday? :money:
That'll be me off shopping this afternoon then, to buy some new stuff that isnt full of cat claw holes and stock up for the summer!

Vaccinations - I dont know enough about them to make an educated comment on them, really. I havent let Seth have the swine flu one, as he is in otherwise good health and from all the stuff on the news about it all I recall them saying that there wasnt so much of a risk if whoever got it was in otherwise good health, and I wasnt very keen on letting him have a jab that was younger than he was IYSWIM? What I do know is that the other jabs have been going for years and years, and while a few young ones may or may not have developed autism or anything else after having them, many many more will not have suffered any adverse effects at all, and the diseases they immunise against are well worth being immunised against.

Meant to be ringing up to book the wedding today, but keeping finding the number in the phone book and putting down the phone to do something else instead

feelinggood_2

Em - fancy Southampton on Friday 12th March?

Also, do you know who else is local?

Becles

Had a plumber out who gave us a stupid quote.

Plumber 1 said £150-£180 depending on parts.
Plumber 2 said £100 plus about £50 for parts.
Plumber 3 said up to £150 depending on parts.

Bloke this morning said about £400-£450 :eek:

Craig has taken some floor boards up and found that two thick copper pipes that we thought were part of the central heating system were not joined onto anything! They must have been left in when I had the old hot water tank taken out and a combi boiler put in years ago. He's taken those pipes out and it's created a lot more room in the space behind the toilet, so he's now wondering if he can do it himself.

tiamai_d

Pigpen, your with a new OH? I lost track of what was going on with your and yours. But what baby? (being uber nosey so tell me to !!!! off if you like)

Pot of soup is ready, anyone want some? It's got sore throat curing properties (also known as ginger and garlic).

emlou2009

Aww Feelie, I would if I wasnt working that day! Have got time off booked the week after for Seths first birthday :eek: so I dont think they'd let me book that day off too, I can ask tomorrow though, if you dont ask you dont get! I think GISI is in Southampton

tiamai_d

Beckles, stand by with a load of buckets and mops just in case and let him try. Either he manages and you save some cash or he doesn't and you get a plumber anyway.

SugarSpun

emlou2009 wrote: »

while a few young ones may or may not have developed autism or anything else after having them, many many more will not have suffered any adverse effects at all, and the diseases they immunise against are well worth being immunised against.

The major problem is that the classic signs of autism are developmental, and the lack of them becomes apparent right around the time the MMR is administered. So there's clear correlation between the two: people notice that their child is not as interactive, maybe, as other children in the few weeks or months after MMR and because of the publicity from that dreadful, recanted, dismissed, flawed, performed-by-someone-working-for-an-anti-vaccine-organisation study they leapt to blame the vaccine. Correlation isn't the same thing as causation, though, and it's appalling that people like Jenny McCarthy can shout from the rooftops how dangerous something is and children die as a result.

There have been 497 preventable deaths from measles and mumps in children whose parents refused the vaccine, and over 50 000 unnecessary cases of the illnesses.

The chicken pox vaccine, I think is ridiculous. It's not 100% effective, and it gives no protection against shingles in adults. I'd much rather spend a week or two dunking my daughter in calamine lotion and oatmeal baths than have her catch shingles in adulthood, or have a hypothetical son end up sterile from it.

Like I said, I support people's right to make their own decisions for what's best for their babies - but only when their decisions are based on solid information and not hearsay.