Peadophiles register - how do i get the info on who is a sex offender?

gordikin

Is this thread on the correct Board?

pitkin2020

gordikin wrote: »

Is this thread on the correct Board?

Praise, vents and warning...........dunno, I can't see a board for "Sharpen your pitchforks and light your torches" so I guess this will have to do.

gordikin

pitkin2020 wrote: »

Praise, vents and warning...........dunno, I can't see a board for "Sharpen your pitchforks and light your torches" so I guess this will have to do.

In that case I would suggest 'Discussion Time'

voiceofreason

Widelats wrote: »

OK for anyone who doesn't know, anyone who has any contact with any kids (which must mean unsupervised i am guessing) can be found out about by any parent, i do not think that this info is available to anyone who does not have a child worker, but as gossip goes and housewives chatter i will bet that there are many smashed windows in the future as i do not think that these people will remain secret from everyone else once found out.There is a Megans law i found where all info is totally public to anyone, i would think that this is better as it not only makes a kiddie fiddler think twice it also alerts everyone in the area - i think kids safety comes first and its my opinion that we should use Megans Law instead. Least now i know how to find out about it, i still think you need to ask the cops for the info though, there is also a trial in Warwickshire going on where all the info is available to parents already.

Mate - if you actually use the term "kiddie fiddler" in serious conversation I don't think you're mature or responsible enough to be trusted with this sort of information.

It's people like you who are responsible for poor old sods getting branded "nonces" and having their homes and property vandalised. Still, if it makes you feel better, leaves you feeling like you've done your bit as part of the righteous lynch mob, then that's alright, isn't it?

pelirocco

Widelats wrote: »

OK for anyone who doesn't know, anyone who has any contact with any kids (which must mean unsupervised i am guessing) can be found out about by any parent, i do not think that this info is available to anyone who does not have a child worker, but as gossip goes and housewives chatter i will bet that there are many smashed windows in the future as i do not think that these people will remain secret from everyone else once found out.There is a Megans law i found where all info is totally public to anyone, i would think that this is better as it not only makes a kiddie fiddler think twice it also alerts everyone in the area - i think kids safety comes first and its my opinion that we should use Megans Law instead. Least now i know how to find out about it, i still think you need to ask the cops for the info though, there is also a trial in Warwickshire going on where all the info is available to parents already.

I doubt it ........
Most cases of abuse happen with someone you know , except for a few rare cases children are not abducted off the streets .


Children are at greater risk from drug and alcohol misuse , yet how many young teens ( and pre teens ) are allowed to roam the streets at will .

What i would like to see is a published list of everyone involved in the supply of drugs

fluffnutter

pelirocco wrote: »

I doubt it ........
Most cases of abuse happen with someone you know , except for a few rare cases children are not abducted off the streets .

I agree. I checked out the NSPCC website to try to get a few stats. It would seem that the biggest risk to children is their parents. Sad but true. In 2005/2006 11 children were killed by strangers (in England/Wales). 11 too many obviously but still fewer than the number killed by their parents. I find crimes against children as abhorrent as the next person, but perspective is important...

biscit

voiceofreason wrote: »

Mate - if you actually use the term "kiddie fiddler" in serious conversation I don't think you're mature or responsible enough to be trusted with this sort of information.

Well put. I think it's fair enough to have some concern about !!!!!philes, but if you're using such immature language it says buckets more about you than it does about the problem.

wuckfit

let's not forget the paediatrician who had her house attacked by a vigilante mob.

Snakeeyes21

wuckfit wrote: »

let's not forget the paediatrician who had her house attacked by a vigilante mob.

Indeed, But you cant use that argument to keep the information out of the public domain, its a story full of lies, what actually happened and what was reported was two completely different things, there was no vigilante mob.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4719364.stm

The paediatrician confused with a !!!!!phile has become a cautionary tale against hysteria over sex offenders. But the details have become confused, even down to whether it was a male or female doctor. What really happened?

Whenever the debate about sex offenders rears its ugly head, we are reminded of this incident and its cruel irony: how protesters targeted a paediatrician (a doctor who cares for children) because his or her job title sounded vaguely like !!!!!phile (a sexual deviant attracted to children).

Last month, when education secretary Ruth Kelly was under pressure to reveal how many individuals on the Sex Offenders Register work in our schools, various newspapers revisited the paediatrician/!!!!!phile story.

A columnist for the Independent criticised the tabloid attacks on Kelly, warning that we might once again end up with a "howling mob" consumed by a "paediatrician-bashing hysteria".

The Glasgow Herald lamented the current "hysteria over alleged sex offenders", and reminded us of the "illiterate lynch mob" that attacked the home of a paediatrician the last time there was such hysteria.

Who what where

The paediatrician incident is mentioned endlessly, but rarely examined in detail. Commentators refer to it all of the time but don't explain where and when it took place, and what exactly happened.

It was part of a wave of incidents sparked by Sarah Payne's murder

There was indeed an incident, in 2000, involving a paediatrician who was mistakenly labelled a "!!!!!", but there is little evidence that it involved any kind of hysterical mob.

In fact, it was a relatively minor incident, which has been exaggerated and distorted in the re-telling - and turned into a symbol of mass hysteria among the tabloid-reading sections of the population.

If you search the web or back issues of newspapers to discover the truth of the paediatrician-bashing incident, expect to be confused. Some reports say a male paediatrician was attacked, others that it was a female paediatrician.

There are clashing reports of where the incident took place. Some say it was in south Wales, others that it was in Portsmouth. In an article in 2001, the Daily Mail asked: "Who can forget the targeting of an innocent children's doctor in Portsmouth by a populace too ignorant and enraged to recognise the difference between !!!!!phile and paediatrician?"

An online magazine, The Register, also says that it was in Portsmouth that "dictionary-starved and enraged mobs attacked a paediatrician".

Yet on a discussion board of a website that focuses on strange events, one contributor says the incident took place in London.


Lynch mob

There are conflicting reports as to what happened. A 2001 Guardian article says a female paediatrician was "hounded" from her home by her own "neighbours, who confused 'paediatrician' with '!!!!!phile'."

Message on a balcony

Some reports say the outside of the paediatrician's home was daubed with "!!!!!", others say the paediatrician woke one morning to find "the term '!!!!!' spray-painted all over her walls" - which suggests breaking and entering as well as vandalism.

According to some accounts she was asleep in the house while the mob vandalised it; according to others she only discovered the vandalism upon returning from work. Some say it was far more serious than just offensive graffiti.

In 2003, a Northern Irish newspaper recalled the time that "Portsmouth became famous when !!!!!phile-hunting locals chased a paediatrician down the street" (there's that mention of Portsmouth again). This account suggests the paediatrician may have been in real physical danger.

A student newspaper at the University of Essex described how "a group of people in Portsmouth... burned down a paediatrician's office in righteous anger."

On one online discussion board it said that "a howling mob stoned [the paediatrician's] house and firebombed it".

In the mainstream media, meanwhile, there are clashing reports over whether the paediatrician was attacked, hounded, chased or abused, but they all agree that it was an "hysterical mob" that did it.

Police talk

Just what is the truth? In August 2000, a female paediatrician consultant called Yvette Cloete was indeed labelled a "!!!!!" after a campaign by the News of the World to name and shame !!!!!philes in the community.

The incident took place in Newport, Gwent, not in Portsmouth (where there had been anti-!!!!!phile protests after eight-year-old Sarah Payne was murdered) or London.

It looks as though it was just a question of confusing the job title for something else - I suppose I'm really a victim of ignorance
Yvette Cloete, speaking in 2000

Dr Cloete returned from work at the Royal Gwent Hospital to find "!!!!!" spray-painted on her front door. Local police believe the graffiti was written by someone who confused her job title with the word !!!!!phile.

It was no doubt a very distressing incident for Ms Cloete, who decided to move home shortly afterwards. But there is no evidence that a mob was involved or of any threats or incidents of physical pressure or violence.

"Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?" says Chief Inspector Andrew Adams, of Gwent Police, who was the liaison officer in charge when news of this incident broke six years ago. He remembers very well that stressful night, when he gave 18 live interviews to various media outlets.

"There was no big mob," he says. "Nothing like that happened. I know because I was there and I was involved. The lady was not in her home when it happened. She came home from work to see her door daubed with anti-!!!!!phile graffiti.

"When we heard about it we set about dispelling the rumours that she or anyone else in that house was a !!!!!phile. We explained to the local community the difference between paediatrician and !!!!!phile."

Who did the graffiti? Mr Adams says he still isn't sure. "We think it was youngsters, probably someone in the 12 to 17 age bracket."

And the community was outraged by the incident and "supportive of the woman involved", he says.

Nevertheless, the story has taken on a life of its own, transformed into a dire warning about hysterical mobs who threaten the fabric of our nation.

The irony is that some in the media, in challenging the scaremongering over sex offenders, indulge in some scaremongering of their own. They raise fears about violent tabloid-reading protesters who will attack, hound and destroy a paediatrician - which seem to be just as unfounded as the fears about thousands of !!!!!philes stalking the land.

Esqui

voiceofreason wrote: »

Mate - if you actually use the term "kiddie fiddler" in serious conversation I don't think you're mature or responsible enough to be trusted with this sort of information.

This is a kiddie fiddler: