BT Steal Your Internet !!!

grumpyofwhitecross

What an absolute load of bull.Everyone knows that BT Fon and wireless can be turned of on a BT home hub. B****P** must be an absolute beginner with no brains..

JJ_Egan

Plus point is BTs attempt to give wireless hotspots The concept made a lot of sense to me and no downside as users can opt in or out . I would like to see other ISPs using the same Fon type of set up giving a lot more wireless coverage when out and about .

jje

kwikbreaks

Virgin Media are considering doing it too but from what I read at the street cabs rather than on the home routers which don't really have sufficient range. I bought a Fonera+ router so that I could be part of the FON network too but didn't find any usable FON hotspots when I was on holiday which was a disappointment (lurking in somebodies front garden isn't really an option).

I don't recall where I read about that but a quick search throws up a number of articles covering the press release - http://www.broadbandanalyst.co.uk/virgin-media/virgin-media-launch-wifi-hotspots-network-cable-broadband/

days4dreams

BrianPie wrote: »

I recently found out about BT FON.

For security and health reasons, I dont want wireless.

After 3 days with their poorly trained "helpdesk" in india they tell me it is not possible to disable BT FON or wireless.

I am not happy with BT. I dont want a mobile phone transmitter near my home. I dont want a base transmitter in my home.

Leave the country then mate, do you think you leaving BT has in anyway changed the number of supposed 'harmful' signals passing through your home? They're every where - because they're no risk.

What is worrying about your possible risk of cancer going to do to stop you from getting it? If it was preventable, we'd prevent it, you face as much risk as anyone else of suffering from the things you seem so scared of, wireless or no wireless.

DVardysShadow

kwikbreaks wrote: »

There is a slight difference in power levels that makes that comparison a little pointless. A mobile phone mast can easily run at ~ 1Kw and home routers are limited by the regulations to ~ 100mw (10,000 times less).

A mobile phone can run at ~ 5w or 50 times more than a home router and even on hands free will be a lot closer so the field level will be a lot more.

The frequencies used for both are non-ionizing and there is absolutely no scientific evidence that they cause any harm at all but if your paranoia prevents you from accepting that then change ISP.

[QUOTE=BrianPie;39251888]I think my nearest mobile mast is about 1km away and about 20m above head height. A hub will be about 5 m away and 1m from head height of a child.

I dont know what the effect is and it may take decades for any effect to become apparent. If there is a 1% chance of sterility, cancer or headaches, I dont want it.

Besides the health risk, I dont want the security risk.[/QUOTE]

So 4 times the field strength from the hub, using the inverse square law and assuming the same radiation field pattern

kwikbreaks

Neither is in any way dangerous but if you like to calculate field strengths do your calculations for the mobile phone rather than the mast. Typically 1-5w touching your ear..... (and that isn't dangerous either - apart from being distracted when using one and possibly driving into something or someone).

spike7451

kwikbreaks wrote: »

Virgin Media are considering doing it too but from what I read at the street cabs rather than on the home routers which don't really have sufficient range. I bought a Fonera+ router so that I could be part of the FON network too but didn't find any usable FON hotspots when I was on holiday which was a disappointment (lurking in somebodies front garden isn't really an option).

I don't recall where I read about that but a quick search throws up a number of articles covering the press release - http://www.broadbandanalyst.co.uk/virgin-media/virgin-media-launch-wifi-hotspots-network-cable-broadband/

They'll have to run mains power then to the street cabinets then as the is no power running to them apart from that carried on the phone network & the copper to the Magnavox boosters.
Most likely they will run this from the street mux's with a mast next to them.
The is plenty of room in the Mux/DA's & these are alarmed as well.The cabs are not.

spannerzone

BrianPie wrote: »

You feel the need to be the authority on a subject and have the last word. When your posts are demonstrated to be gas, you resort to insults. Well done! :T

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DUTR

ComplexP wrote: »

I used to turn my router off at night but then my speeds dropped. Turned out that the exchange was seeing it as a dropped connection every night and decided to reduce my speeds to improve stability.

I leave it on all the time now.

So much for being green.

Glad you have calmed down from the original post, as frankly it seemed a scare story! As explained already BT FON is a share thing, and to be honest the FON i have never gotten to work on my ipod touch, walking around the neighbourhood like a geek, just could not get it to log on, although on the plus side, I can log onto openzone sites and there is one within reach at work and when I am in built up areas like motorway services, as it is at no extra charge on my bt internet account then that is great, it used to be a limit of 500minutes, but it is now unlimited.
And as others have mentioned there is no fear of folk downloading prawn and making it look like you