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seven-day-weekend

Trialia wrote: »

krisskross, you're really starting to make me angry.

Want to know the details of mine? Less on the 'list' than your husband's, but the major ones have plenty of little friends.

Cognitive processing impairment, short-term memory loss and impaired memory consolidation, chronic widespread muscular-skeletal pain, weakness and tremors, chronic disabling fatigue, nausea, dizziness, impaired balance, low pain threshold and high tolerance to painkillers, chronic migraines, moderately severe asthma, repeated and frequent dislocations and subluxations of all my joints except my spine (and subluxations with that, too), severe anxiety and panic attacks, dramatic and extremely frequent swings between suicidal depression, mixed episodes and mania, hearing voices, faceblindness, skin hyperextensibility, strong myopia and worsening astigmatism, hearing impairment at certain levels of sound, allodynia, peripheral neuropathy, functional bowel disturbances, lack of alpha-delta (restorative) sleep, temporomandibular joint disorder, microfibre muscle tearing, symptomatic hypoglycaemia, cognitive overload, haptephobia, menorrhagia and dysmenorrhoea, spinal neuropathic damage, multiple chemical sensitivities, allergies and hayfever, costochondritis...

Now try to tell me a short list of diagnoses automatically makes someone less disabled than a long one. Painkillers don't even work on me, although I am allowed them.

Oh, and knowing disability second-hand does not equal knowing it first-hand, just so you know.

I don't doubt that you have these conditions, but isn't one of them period pain??

krisskross

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krisskross

Trialia wrote: »

Actually, in the purely linguistic sense of the term "disability", it is, whether you regard it as such or not. To "be unable" to do something = to have a "disability" to do that thing.

Oh, and I notice you didn't even try to answer my post... wonder why? :P

I didn't answer because most of the things you catalogue are actually signs and symptoms on which a diagnosis of an illness will be based, not necessarily an illness or disease on their own.

I'll do it with you with just diabetes shall I?

Incessant uncontrollable thirst, frequency of micturition to the point where incontinence can occur. Frequent skin and genital infections. Itchy skin. Confusion, coma, death. Hypoglycaemic attacks leading to acute confusional state, sweating, shaking and eventual collapse into coma. If untreated death will follow.
Hyperglycaemia leads to again acute confusional state, acute breathing difficulty and again coma/death. Sores from repeated injections, amputations due to poor healing particularly of the feet because there is excess sugar in the blood. Peripheral neuropathy where the nerves in hands and feet die, causing loss of sensation. loss of sight from retinal damage.

See 2 can play that stupid game.

And I personally have had myopia (short sight) since I was very young. Would hardly suggest it is a disability. a nuisance but not a disability. Oh and I sneeze a lot if near soap, aftershave etc, so obviously have allergies as well.

jazabelle

krisskross wrote: »

I didn't answer because most of the things you catalogue are actually signs and symptoms on which a diagnosis of an illness will be based, not necessarily an illness or disease on their own.

She didn't say they were all seperate illnesses - just that even one condition can cause a whole list of issues on its own. This means you making a longer list to outdo people doesn't necessarily mean a lot.

jazabelle

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I don't doubt that you have these conditions, but isn't one of them period pain??

Severe and heavy period pain. It's pretty awful actually. I had something similar before I went on the minipill to stop my periods (yes, too much information, I know!) and I was bedbound for five weeks due to the severity of it. I don't want to go into too much details, but it's not something I want to go through again.

seven-day-weekend

I thought one just took a couple of paracetomol and got on with things. (And I do know what I'm talking about, having not had the menopause until I was nearly 55).

Indie_Kid

krisskross wrote: »

I didn't answer because most of the things you catalogue are actually signs and symptoms on which a diagnosis of an illness will be based, not necessarily an illness or disease on their own.

But many could be a condition by itself. I was diagnosed with severe photophobia (so bad that going from dark to light gives me migraine) and have been told there's no cause for it. However, it's possible that it's related to my other eye problems.

krisskross

jazabelle wrote: »

She didn't say they were all seperate illnesses - just that even one condition can cause a whole list of issues on its own. This means you making a longer list to outdo people doesn't necessarily mean a lot.

Indeed one condition can. See my diabetic list. Not trying to outdo anyone but I do think trialia was trying to blind everyone with medical terms. Period pain, heavy periods and short sight.

Indie_Kid

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I thought one just took a couple of paracetomol and got on with things. (And I do know what I'm talking about, having not had the menopause until I was nearly 55).

Paracetamol doesn't always help. When I was younger, I used to vomit when I came on.

At one point, I was taking co-codamol.

jazabelle

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I thought one just took a couple of paracetomol and got on with things. (And I do know what I'm talking about, having not had the menopause until I was nearly 55).

I just explained I was bedbound with the severity of it, do you think it didn't occur to me to take painkillers? I've had plenty of painful periods where I've just got on with it, but as I explained they can be particularly awful with certain conditions.

What has your menopause got to do with anything? All I was doing was explaining that the periods on that list wasn’t just referring to the normal monthly kind, but a particular brand of nasty.

Of course you two will come back and say your womb falls out every month, but you just pull your socks up and get on with it, and those of us that can’t are a bunch of whiners, and can’t possibly be experiencing something differently.