What Does Unfurnished Mean?

BitterAndTwisted

Your tenant is an idiot and I reckon the agent is as well

Geenie

I let unfurnished. As already stated, this means carpets, curtains and a cooker if requested, but nothing else. If a tenant goes for unfurnished, then it means just that, and a fridge would not be included. Occasionally in the past, we have had bits of furniture or even dishwashers left by previous tenants, which the new tenants have requested to remain, but it doesn't go on the inventory, as it is not part of the tenancy agreement with us.

G_M

Geenie wrote: »

I let unfurnished. As already stated, this means carpets, curtains and a cooker if requested, but nothing else. If a tenant goes for unfurnished, then it means just that, and a fridge would not be included. Occasionally in the past, we have had bits of furniture or even dishwashers left by previous tenants, which the new tenants have requested to remain, but it doesn't go on the inventory, as it is not part of the tenancy agreement with us.

You may not put it on the inventory, but if you leave it in the property, and hence provide it for the tenant's use, then you are responsible for it if it breaks down. The tenant could insist you repair it. Yes, you could deny you'd left it there and get into an arguement, but that's not either a professional, nor advisable, way to act as a LL.

If it's in the property, put it on the inventory.

Geenie

G_M wrote: »

You may not put it on the inventory, but if you leave it in the property, and hence provide it for the tenant's use, then you are responsible for it if it breaks down. The tenant could insist you repair it. Yes, you could deny you'd left it there and get into an arguement, but that's not either a professional, nor advisable, way to act as a LL.

If it's in the property, put it on the inventory.

We don't leave it in the property. When the new tenant is viewing, often just after a previous one has left the day before, there is still stuff left in the property. We will say quite clearly it is going and not part of the tenancy agreement. We love nothing better then to clear a place out completely. But if a new tenant says they don't want certain items to be removed, then they sign to say so. We don't provide dishwashers, but if they want to keep the newish one of a previous tenant, and in 20 years we have never had any come back to us to replace or moan about it, then they do so off their own backs.

We have had tenants leave beds, wardrobes etc, which the new ones have wanted. They don't go on the inventory because we are more then happy to not have them as part of the deal. We let unfurnished. If tenants are happy to recycle, and what could be greener in this day, then that is their perogative. Haven't had any complaints yet, as common sense still goes down well here in rural Devon.

Danjames90

superfran_uk wrote: »

Think your tenant might be a bit on the dim side...I would watch out for them!

I think you might be right............

Danjames90

G_M wrote: »

I don't understand. Your post reads as if you already have a tenant in occupancy. So presumably you, and he, have signed an agreed inventory?

So the tenant knew what he was getting.

If on the other hand this is a prospective tenant, who is reluctant to sign/move in unless you provide certain items, well then it's up to you to decide whether getting this tenant in place is worth the cost of the extra items.

Entirely up to you.

I have a tenant who has agreed to move in on Saturday but at the final hour my letting agent has called to say don't forget to leave this and don't forget to leave that etc. I am saying that is not what we agreed but my letting agent is trying to tell me those things are standard, which I don't agree with.

I have told the letting agent that unless we have a signed inventory that we both agree on prior to her moving in, she isn't moving in.

Obviously I want the tenant but not if it is going to cost me £500 in furniture. I don't have the cash for that.

Gwhiz

In my mind kitchen appliances (at least a cooker and a fridge) should be there.

penguingirl

In my last tenancy we used the white goods to negotiate with the landlord- we wanted a 6 month tenancy, and he offered us a 12 month tenancy, but provided us with white goods (fridge, freezer and washer/dryer) as an incentive. This suited us because we didn't have our own stuff so we agreed.

But as a rule I would expect unfurnished not to include them.

nollag2006

Any property that I have let unfurnished would usually include any "white goods" that are already installed - such as cooker, washing machine, and dishwasher where they were already in the property.

Unfurnished certainly doesn't cover bedroom furniture.

Snafu

Danjames90 wrote: »

I have a tenant who has agreed to move in on Saturday but at the final hour my letting agent has called to say don't forget to leave this and don't forget to leave that etc. I am saying that is not what we agreed but my letting agent is trying to tell me those things are standard, which I don't agree with..

Er, it sounds like your letting agent is representing the tenant here rather than you. I'd think about changing to an agent with a better understanding of the agent/client relationship.