depression

kronas

Miroslav wrote:

'S' has called me - she doesn't want to go to her Mother's grave with me on Friday now, but wants to go to the Cinema.

thats still a good sign.

Miroslav wrote:

She didn't mention anything about New Years Eve/Day or my text.

you made a declaration of love ?

Miroslav wrote:

It's great she still wants to do things with me, but she clearly lied about having feelings for me, as she won't even acknowledge it.

i suggest laying off a bit in trying to push her for an answer, it drives women away if you become too pushy all of a sudden, maybe he is finding it difficult to decide on what to do, she may need time to think things through, if shes is fragile.

Miroslav wrote:

I'm going to find it really hard that she has not even acknowledged anything we talked about.

you need to be patient

Miroslav wrote:

Flatmate is seeing her tomorrow. Will wait until she tells flatmate the obvious (Not ready etc) and then decide what to do.

dont be too hard on yourself, if you have done your bit then you have let time pass a bit.

Miroslav wrote:

I may go back to my estranged family for a while to get over her. It would be okay if she acknowledged it, and told me she needs time, but by ignoring it, it's making me not able to handle it.

As per usual, 'S' pushes it under the carpet.

hold on.... i thought you liked her.... so your not going to put up a fight for her at all ? im not saying literally fight her but at somepoint your going to have to ask her for answer, i think if you really like her to just be patient for a little but, no point forcing the issue.

Miroslav

Sazbo wrote:

Miro hun - the fact that she hasn't acknowledged it, why because of that was she 'clearly lying'? It maybe she's still finding it a bit a shock, and is still getting used to it? It was only a few days ago after all. It may be she needs to time acknowledge her feelings before she can acknowledge them to you? Sazx

'S' is a well known liar. She lies about alot of things, more and more apparent each day is the sheer scale of it all. She doesn't do it nastily, she just wants to be 'interesting'

I'm also not sure why anyone would ever like me for.

What no-one realises, is that i'm scared too, that i've been hurt alot too. I guess I was hurting so bad, I had to tell her and i've been kinda burnt

Miroslav

blinky wrote:

Have you thought:
she doesn't know to say about it?
she doesn't want to say anything in case it hurts you or pushes you away?
slipped her mind? You have said she can be a bit dizzy?

I think she's scared, but I really do think she may not have meant it. There is something big there between us, I just think maybe she has realised i'm not good enough, I don't know.

Either way, she let her guard down on Sunday, and it's noticeable when she tells the truth........I think she has feelings for me, but i'm not sure how much.

This won't have slipped her mind, I guess i'm just expecting the worst and have accepted it before it happens.

Miroslav

kronas wrote:

yep i urge you to do that, just dont be pushy, just remind her that you are there for her, that you want to help, maybe explaining your own situation will help her to understand that you are being genuine, it can become very hard to trust people when your going through life, people are quick to judge you on one or two actions but dont often let you prosper in your own ways of doing things and being productive in life, freedom to express to desire....

I've not mentioned anything to her about Sunday/Monday, so as not to be pushy. I have text her about Cinema times, and that I enjoy her company and like listening to her, and that her sense of humour is fantastic - it is! More to follow in another post

At least she's not yet fully retreated from me.

Miroslav

kronas wrote:

thats still a good sign.



you made a declaration of love ?



i suggest laying off a bit in trying to push her for an answer, it drives women away if you become too pushy all of a sudden, maybe he is finding it difficult to decide on what to do, she may need time to think things through, if shes is fragile.



you need to be patient



dont be too hard on yourself, if you have done your bit then you have let time pass a bit.



hold on.... i thought you liked her.... so your not going to put up a fight for her at all ? im not saying literally fight her but at somepoint your going to have to ask her for answer, i think if you really like her to just be patient for a little but, no point forcing the issue.

Yes, at least she still called, and she was quite humourous on the phone - well, very actually. She even asked me how I was :eek:

I told her I felt more for her than friends. She said she felt the same, only to back off 5 hours later.

I've not chased her for an answer or to talk about it. I'm not going too, I don't want to push her away.

I'm going to carry on fighting for her. I recently have had alot of female attention. All the other 8 (that makes me sound like a man!!!!! ) aren't mentally damaged, but they don't attract me like 'S'

I need to look after myself too though

Miroslav

As promised - the humorous bit.

She said she was changing her number - and she has.

She phoned me, I didn't recognise the number, so said "Hello"

On the other end

"Bonjour, hello"

Me: - Silence for 2-3 seconds

Then

"Hi, it's me 'S'" wetting herself with laughter

Looking back on it, it was very funny as it got me totally - she always gets me

On Sunday, she was adamant she had brought some hotpants that she showed me that I liked, and she was going to make me wear them - for 30 seconds I thought she was serious, so did my flatmate, but she was joking and I fell for it

She's a cracking girl, but so messed up

Oh lordy

Miroslav

EthelBloggs wrote:

Thanks again tiffy..

Guess what.. I had a knock on the door at about 10.30 tonight and they've brought her home for being sarcastic :mad: they didnt' bother to ring and make sure i was home first or anything, and they brought her out in the rain with barefeet and pyjamas on !!!!!!... its freezing out and pouring with rain. No medications either. I'm seriously getting sick of them.

I spoke to the people at MIND today and they are going to ring me tomorrow with details of an advocate who should be able to help hopefully. They've also given me the details of someone who will help with filling forms in n stuff.

Not sure what's going on with me but in addition to the numb fingers, tingly hands and dead arm I'm now feeling dizzy and lightheaded If I lean back in my chair it feels like it's falling. Horrible it is.

:eek: Typical mis-treatment by our care staff!

Hope MIND get in touch tomorrow!

Have you been eating okay?

Tiff_2

Hi cc :wave:,
I do hope you are well. My only regret from my post hun was that I mentioned some of my problems. That should have been a separate post hun and may have blurred the points I was trying to make. I didn't get chance to answer your second post due to a busy day before you came back with your 3rd post, which I'll reply to later.
So - with it being so 'clumsily written' as you say, I thought it may help in a way, to edit out my personal problems, so that you may see that I wasn't being nasty to you at all. I'm hoping this shows my intentions better. Take care.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Tiff wrote:

Hi cc :wave:
Sorry to hear that you were out of power for sooo long - that's awful! It usually happens that way, with someone up the street still having electricity. The authorities were good at predicting the storms and cancelling most events as we all expected. Can't help acts of God though can we? I'm glad you managed to get some dinner hun.;) :j
CC hun - whoa!
Now don't jump down my throat angel, but you've got it all wrong! I looked back over the posts too cc, and 9 people wished everyone on the thread Happy New Year on the day, 3 people named you specifically and yesterday, I mentioned you specifically on p338, letting you know how much you are appreciated and wishing you well.

It wasn't cliquey at all - the people posting were the only ones online. Everyone else was doing their own thing. Maybe people didn't post because they knew you were offline but throughout the day, you were sent many warm wishes and you also sent them yourself.
There were a lot of people who weren't specifically mentioned cc - not just you, so don't take it so personally hun.


CC hun, this is what I meant when I said to you in my message to stay calm. I can understand you must have felt very low with the weather and your bad cold hun, not to mention the New Year blues - I am sorry you feel so angry and so low. I really hope you're feeling better. I hope these are the reasons that you're posting so angrily to people who don't merit it. I'm hoping you just needed a good rant which everyone is entitled to;) , but then you go on to repeat your angry feelings.


I do care about you - and everyone - on this thread hun. But I think you're wrong in this instance cc - a little bit of over-reacting with regards to people not caring about you.:o Personally, it wasn't nice to read your comments - quite hurtful in fact. I'm not being nasty to you angel, in any way, just honestly replying to a post that I felt was undeserved. Hun, you do have things to be grateful for and you've got great plans for 2007 and people do care about you. We're always here for you.


My name wasn't mentioned much either that night on the board - a lot of people's names weren't. Don't forget either, that we all have mental ill health issues too and may not have been well enough to post. I'm sorry if this post offends you angel - it wasn't meant to but I felt I just had to repond to what you were saying. Apologies to you and to the others for my long post and for any upset caused.

So cc hun - please take a step backwards and take another look at the whole picture. You're not so badly off angel - there's people hurting worse than us but yes, our pain is important too. Let go of all that anger hun - you deserve better than that.
Hold your head up girl and start the New Year that you have planned, with a generous spirit and a hopeful heart.
Sorry everyone.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

blinky

EthelBloggs wrote:

Thanks again tiffy..

Guess what.. I had a knock on the door at about 10.30 tonight and they've brought her home for being sarcastic :mad: they didnt' bother to ring and make sure i was home first or anything, and they brought her out in the rain with barefeet and pyjamas on !!!!!!... its freezing out and pouring with rain. No medications either. I'm seriously getting sick of them.

I spoke to the people at MIND today and they are going to ring me tomorrow with details of an advocate who should be able to help hopefully. They've also given me the details of someone who will help with filling forms in n stuff.

Not sure what's going on with me but in addition to the numb fingers, tingly hands and dead arm I'm now feeling dizzy and lightheaded If I lean back in my chair it feels like it's falling. Horrible it is.

Hun,

How they've treated your DD is terrible. :mad:

Hope the dizziness goes soon.

Miroslav

Right......

'S' text me this morning to meet tomorrow outside the Cinema, 20 mins before film starts, which means no pre-movie Tea/Coffee

I text her back and asked if she would let me buy her a drink beforehand, she replied that she'd meet me a further 15 minutes beforehand, but still outside the Cinema - either she's avoiding any possible 'chat' situations or she doesn't understand what I mean.

I didn't reply as was upset at the thought she didn't want to meet me as per usual, about 1h 15/30m before the movie.

50 minutes later, after I did not reply, my text tone goes again - I think it's flatmate as I text her 5 mins previous - it's 'S' - "Just to let you know, I'm paying for you to go to the cinema"

Now, that's really nice and I appreciate and will accept it, but the thing I noticed was, she text me 50 minutes after I did not respond, which is not 'S' at all. It's like, because I did not respond, she felt she had to text me again as knowing her, she was hoping i'd reply.

This was 1hr 30m ago, and I haven't replied to the offer of her paying yet either - I mean, i've typed 6 or 7 messages but not sent them.

They all said, only if she could afford too etc etc, but I would accept (even though as a gentleman I feel very bad about it!)

I said on a couple, I was going to be in town, and if she wanted a tea/coffee, then i'd wait at xxxxx at 3pm, just incase, don't worry if you don't turn up, as i'm in town anyway doing other things.

Then I thought, nah, don't meet, she's meeting flatmate later anyway (Flatmate is only meeting her to see how she feels about me, flatmate likes her, but not loads, and no more than once a week for a few hours max!)

I know she'll tell flatmate "I'm not ready" or "I didn't mean it, I don't like him more than a friend"

But even as a low self esteemed Miro, I know there is more there - it's just whether I have enough strength to be constantly rejected, despite knowing this won't go away.