Safety gates for older children

PrincessPlaty

Just to add about the points about the OP's DD climbing over the stairgate its an extra tall one that i linked to and even when not in a heavily pregnant state at 5'3 i cant climb over it :rotfl:

delain

there's no doors between her room and the kitchen, but i may see if i can just get a cheap door from somewhere.

Spendless

PrincessPlaty wrote: »

Just to add about the points about the OP's DD climbing over the stairgate its an extra tall one that i linked to and even when not in a heavily pregnant state at 5'3 i cant climb over it :rotfl:

It's 90cm high isn't it? Unless I've mis-read and it extends higher. I've just measured 90cm from my bottom stairs and yes that was around the height my son used to leg it over from a far earlier age than the OP's child. Kids have an amazing ability to climb -ever seen them climbing over school railings etc that adults can't master (even when not pregnant).

ETA- Just re-read OP and her daughter has already got things off something 6ft high.

PrincessPlaty

Spendless wrote: »

It's 90cm high isn't it? Unless I've mis-read and it extends higher. I've just measured 90cm from my bottom stairs and yes that was around the height my son used to leg it over from a far earlier age than the OP's child. Kids have an amazing ability to climb -ever seen them climbing over school railings etc that adults can't master (even when not pregnant).

ETA- Just re-read OP and her daughter has already got things off something 6ft high.

but if its at the top of the stairs they would be a lot less likely to even try

delain

Spendless wrote: »

It's 90cm high isn't it? Unless I've mis-read and it extends higher. I've just measured 90cm from my bottom stairs and yes that was around the height my son used to leg it over from a far earlier age than the OP's child. Kids have an amazing ability to climb -ever seen them climbing over school railings etc that adults can't master (even when not pregnant).

ETA- Just re-read OP and her daughter has already got things off something 6ft high.

There is wortktop at 70cm that goes up to it, so she must have scaled the tumble dryer and then stood on the worktop! The gate might be a bit different

PrincessPlaty wrote: »

but if its at the top of the stairs they would be a lot less likely to even try

When we had a gate before she didn't climb over it, and maybe that alarmed one would show her we mean business? The other one was the standard lindam pressure one!

Spendless

PrincessPlaty wrote: »

but if its at the top of the stairs they would be a lot less likely to even try

Would you want to risk it though?:cool: Especially if she is initially in not completely awake stage. The reason mine was at the bottom of the stairs was because DS could climb over it.

I think if I was goiong to do this it would have to go on the bedroom door first to see how much a deterrant it was.

lolababy

Try using money as an insentive. Give her a set amount each day and if she misbehaves take a agreed amount away. Say fifty pence per day and a 10p fine for each time she misbehaves. To encourage her give the twins the same amount and only fine them for things they understand is wrong.
Find something she would like and the cost of that object. If its something which would need most of her money to buy then she will have a goal to work to. If she misbehaves make her aware that the goal wont be met. Make sure that the object is less than the total amount that she gets in a full week otherwise there is no insentive to try to be good.

Gingham_Ribbon

Spendless wrote: »

Yep I have an almost 10 yo the same. I've said before that I can't wait for the teenage years to kick in, to see if he sleeps more then! Have you tried classical music playing Gingham, we have had some success with this (obviously no good if he can't bear the sound).

Thanks. I'll try it. He used to find much of it too 'sad' but his brother loves it so he's started listing to more. He's still awake. He's sitting up reading out loud to himself.

Good luck, delain. Sounds like there are a lot of issues going on. I know you didn't ask for this sort of info, but if you're finding that taking toys away from her doesn't work (and it certainly doesn't for mine) have a read of 'How to talk so kids will listen and listen so kids will talk'. There's some interesting stuff about consequences rather than punishment that makes a lot of sense in my opinion.

PrincessPlaty

Spendless wrote: »

I think if I was goiong to do this it would have to go on the bedroom door first to see how much a deterrant it was.

Surely doing this though is going to cause issues if she needs the toilet during the night though

Tbh i originally got one after i saw a friend of mine use one for her son (albeit he does have adhd though) that was doing exactly the same thing as the OP's DD she used it at the top of her stairs now despite the fact he has a no fear mentality he has never once tried to climb over it...

Just the fact that it was there was enough to stop him.

Gingham_Ribbon

lolababy wrote: »

Try using money as an insentive. Give her a set amount each day and if she misbehaves take a agreed amount away. Say fifty pence per day and a 10p fine for each time she misbehaves. To encourage her give the twins the same amount and only fine them for things they understand is wrong.
Find something she would like and the cost of that object. If its something which would need most of her money to buy then she will have a goal to work to. If she misbehaves make her aware that the goal wont be met. Make sure that the object is less than the total amount that she gets in a full week otherwise there is no insentive to try to be good.

That's a good idea.

We had a lot of luck with jars of pasta. One jar was for breaking the rules and one was for doing well. We started with 50 pieces of pasta in the 'good' jar and would add 10 more every time he hit a target but we'd take 5 out every time he broke a rule and put it in the 'naughty' jar. (We'd take the pasta out of the 'naughty' jar to put in the other one if there was any in it. At the end of the week we'd see which jar had the most pasta in it. If the good jar had more in, we'd give him a treat. Then we'd start afresh.

It worked well but we only had 2 or 3 straighforward rules at a time and we really enthused about the successess.