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There's no need to insult people. Yes those vacancies do exist. but, as far as I recall from learning to tell the time, the hours between 10am and 2pm do not fall in the evenings. And kids don't go to school at weekends.
Sorry - I don't get the relevence of this at all? What point are you trying to make?
"One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
According to this link in this Job Centre Plus leaflet, they are saying that over 16 hours per week is "full time" (obviously the definition will change depending on your viewpoint):
http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/jcpwelsh/stellent/groups/jcp/documents/websitecontent/dev_011739.pdf
And this link here:
http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/money-tax-and-benefits/benefits-and-financial-support/employed-or-looking-for-work/job-grant.htm
It's all irrelevent anyway - as you are not saying you can only work 16 hours, but are actually giving them 64 hours per week to stick on your agreement that you can choose from. No one could say that you are not looking for full time work with those hours (which is all you're worried about anyway)"One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
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You do say it was your job. Are you sure things haven't changed a little since it was your job.
Yes, I'm positive. And I quite clearly stated that it depends on the funding. If a crouse is not so funded then it doesn't matter how many hours are involved, it is the classification that is important.What are you getting about about the hours? Which bit of it don't you understand? I've just listed the hours that can be worked. Anything other than that is not possible.
The OP is more than entitled to update their agreement with these hours.
There are jobs that operate with these hours.
I think you are arguing to just try and make it sound more fancy than it needs to be. The OP can work between 10-2pm (lots of restuarants/pubs/ schools/offices etc will have vacancies within these hours) after 8pm, lots of pubs will have hours such as this and weekends (again there are loads of companies that require staff to work weekends).
I'm not trying to insult anyone, but you don't need half a brain to get your head round that there are jobs that require these hours to be worked. Why anyone would need it "proving " to them beggars belief. A little common sense wouldn't go amiss surely?
Stop posting rubbish. A quick guide on availability:
A claimant must be available for all hours, however they can restrict their availability to no fewer than 40 hours per week providing they can show reasonable prospects of finding employment witin those restrictions.
Certain other people (such as the OP) can further restrict their availability to no fewer than 16 hours per week providing a) they still show reasonable prospects and b) are available for all hours that their caring responsibilities allow.
The onus is on the claimant to show reasonable prospects - the best, if not only, way to do that is by providing evidence of vacancies.0 -
A claimant must be available for all hours, however they can restrict their availability to no fewer than 40 hours per week providing they can show reasonable prospects of finding employment witin those restrictions.
They are restricting thier hours to 64 per week. Did you not see that? You just have to add the hours up to get the total.
Do you still do that job or did you give it up? "One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
I'm suggesting that our arguing over the rules is not helping anybody. And that's what we're here for, no?
I'm not arguing over any rules as i don't think you've posted any "rules" that have held up any sort of valid argument as to why the solution to this isn't completely straightforward.
The DWP is not there to stop the OP being able to sign on. They are 100% entitled to get their agreement sorted into a format that suits them and their working availabilty. They are also there to help the OP. Not bleat on about any completely irrelevent "rules"."One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
I'm not arguing over any rules as i don't think you've posted any "rules" that have held up any sort of valid argument as to why the solution to this isn't completely straightforward.
The DWP is not there to stop the OP being able to sign on. They are 100% entitled to get their agreement sorted into a format that suits them and their working availabilty. They are also there to help the OP. Not bleat about any completely irrelevent "rules".
Oh stop it. You clearly have no idea about this subject, I will search out the rules and post them for you. Please wait until I do before replying otherwise we'll be posting across each other.0 -
Okay:
1. Walk into job centre
2. Tell them you need to amend your agreement
3. Update with the 64 hours per week that you are available to work
4. Talk about and look for vacancies
I don't need anyone to search out for any rules. It's not difficult. The OP is looking for a job - not a problem."One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
21125 Caring responsibilities means responsibility for caring for a person
1. who is
1.1 a child or21420 Claimants (other than those in DMG 21421) must be willing and able to take up
1
employment of at least 40 hours in any benefit week . If they are not, they are not
available.
1 JSA Regs, reg 6(1)
1
21421 Claimants who restrict the hours for which they are available because
1. they are on short time (see DMG 21327) or
2. they have caring responsibilities (see DMG 21434) or
3. of their physical or mental disabilities (see DMG 21443) or
4. they have caring responsibilities for a child who is subject of a parenting order
or parenting contract (see DMG 21440) or
5. of a combination of 1. to 4.
must be willing and able to take up employment of less than 40 hours in any benefit
week.
Note: The claimant does not have to be willing and able to take up employment for
a greater number of hours than they are available for.21423 Claimants (other than those in DMG 21327 - 21330 and DMG 21434 - 21449) are
not available if they restrict the total number of hours that are available for
1
employment, to less than 40 hours in any benefit week21439 If claimants place restrictions on their availability
1. some of which are connected to their caring responsibilities under DMG
21434 and
2. some of which are not connected to those responsibilities
they must show that they have reasonable prospects of obtaining employment with
1
all of their restrictions .
1 reg 8
Example
A woman is only available on Fridays and from Mondays to Thursdays in each
benefit week and from 10.00am to 12.00pm and 1.00pm to 3.30pm on each of those
days. This is because she has to care for a child.
She also says the she will only work for £250 a week. She has no child care costs
because her mother will care for the child for free. The restriction on wages is not
connected to her caring responsibilities.
The DM should decide whether she has reasonable prospects of obtaining
employment
1. working those hours and
2. for that wage.
There are exceptions to the reasonable exceptions rule but they don't seem to apply0 -
There are exceptions to the reasonable exceptions rule but they don't seem to apply
All irrelevent as the OP is saying that they can work many more hours than just that.
Spouting rules is one thing - but please check to what circumstances you are quoting them against or you are just misleading people."One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0
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