2010 House Price Forecast + 5% to +10%....

Graham_Devon

Hamish. Did you or did you not state that house prices would fall over winter. Did you or did you not suggest house prices would start falling in October this year?

Did you or did you not say you are surprised they have still held up?

Were you or were you not, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US completely wrong?

If so, why keep starting threads with "I told you so" and "just like I said" and posts with contradictions in?

chucky

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Christ, you are like a terrier on heat, nipping at the ankles everywhere I go.

For once, even for one day chucky. Grow up. Please.

Graham, let yourself just be serious for one moment.

if you want to give out to other posters don't be surprised if they respond back to you in the same type of tone.

it looks like you like to give it out but not receive it when it's given back in equal proportion. if you don't like it, don't go on the offensive with other posters. it's quite simple

were you bullied at school because you're showing all the classic symptoms

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Hamish. Did you or did you not state that house prices would fall over winter. Did you or did you not suggest house prices would start falling in October this year?

Did you or did you not say you are surprised they have still held up?

Were you or were you not, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US completely wrong?

If so, why keep starting threads with "I told you so" and "just like I said" and posts with contradictions in?

I still believe house prices will fall over winter. We still have Dec, Jan and Feb to go.

I am surprised prices did not fall earlier. But delighted to be wrong on that front, as I have admitted many times.

The more bullish posters have been, on the whole, far more right about house prices this year than the bearish ones. Don't even try to deny it, because you can't.

This thread did not once say "I told you so" or "just like I said". Nor did it contain any contradictions.

Graham, you're on a world class trolling rampage this morning, did someone take a dump in your breakfast cereal today?

Really2

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Graham, you're on a world class trolling rampage this morning, did someone take a dump in your breakfast cereal today?

I think it may have been an ice licking experiment gone wrong.

Graham_Devon

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

This thread did not once say "I told you so" or "just like I said". Nor did it contain any contradictions.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote:

What more can I say..... Perfectly encapsulates the arguments those of a more positive disposition have been making all year, and we have been right so far.

It's that which I am talking about. You said "this thread" above.

As everyone can see, I am talking about other threads, not solely this one.

It's a thread which starts in gloating, only the problem is, you are gloating about something which only 3 months ago you were saying was going to be different. Therefore, like all of us on here, you were wrong, but you seem to think you were right and keep telling us so.

Every post I now write you call trolling and put a "oh look a shiny thing" quote in. The next time I pick you up on something you say, you will say I'm trolling. And the next and the next. Its far easier for you to say im derailing and trolling than it is to argue your corner.

Edit: Amsuing that you keep accusing me of trolling, yet the only reason you are on this site is because you were banned for trolling another.

baileysbattlebus

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Hamish. Did you or did you not state that house prices would fall over winter. Did you or did you not suggest house prices would start falling in October this year?

Did you or did you not say you are surprised they have still held up?

Were you or were you not, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US completely wrong?

If so, why keep starting threads with "I told you so" and "just like I said" and posts with contradictions in?

Graham - I don't like to get involved in the arguments on here - but incase you hadn't noticed today is the first day of winter. Or it was when I went to school and it will end on the vernal equinox 20th/21st March - the first day of spring.

Bootski

Graham_Devon wrote: »

LOL, throw as much fluff around as you like. "Next year" is about 10 days away

The next DECADE is about 10 days away!!

You can't seriously come on here people come on here seriously, all the time and tell us all you were correct but not always, only to vindicate themselves in a self congratulations post, nor for a pat on the back and then try and tell me I'm derailing the thread you've ALREADY derailed the thread Graham - in the 3rd or 4th Post!! because I have picked up how correct you were in everything else you said which goes totally against what you are now saying.

It's not a competition nor about corrections - who's right nor wrong!!:o Leave personal asides, aside, and get on with what Hamish has said today which is, in itself an intersesting and informative topic.

As for the topic in hand I think there will be a small rise next year as, I, for one am hanging on for a better price and don't believe IR's will rise too much in the short nor medium term.

I dropped the price of my house "to sell". In my area, 1 bed flats or 250/300K houses have sold. I'm in the middle with one offer that fell through but no other takers. It might be in that middle bracket, unobtainble to some due to the credit available, or not. But another 10 - 15K is a lot of money to me so I welcome either stability or small rise.

It's not been MY fault, all this HPC!:cool:

julieq

Graham, you're creating a false dichotomy. It's ridiculous to claim that Hamish's pronouncements are "wrong" because they're not absolutely accurate.

Very few forecasts are ever 100% accurate. That doesn't mean all forecasts are wrong. It doesn't mean it's not worth making forecasts either.

The fact is that Hamish's forecasts for this year have been way more accurate than yours, or in fact any of the bears. That seems something worth remarking on, given that the most usual bear response to Hamish posting an article is to post personal attacks, ascii art, or in fact anything that deflects attention from the uncomfortable truth that he's directionally right and has been all year, where the bears have been so wildly far from the mark that it's amazing they take even themselves seriously. To be so unswervingly, consistently and heroically wrong is quite an achievement.

In suggesting that we have all been wrong so no-one has anything to boast about, you're reducing the argument to playground reductionist logic. It doesn't advance the discussion, it's just marginal pedantry.

Graham_Devon

julieq wrote: »

In suggesting that we have all been wrong so no-one has anything to boast about, you're reducing the argument to playground reductionist logic. It doesn't advance the discussion, it's just marginal pedantry.

And in telling us you were right, when you have changed tact so much and continue to do so depending on the thread is what?

I don't actually expect you to answer, what with being on the bull side

Call it what you want. If Hamish didn't preach he is right to us so often, this wouldn't happen.

You say he has been more right than myself. But I bet you couldn't even tell me what I predicted.

Bootski

WHatsmore, all this HPC'ers argurment that IR's will rise and QE will end.

So what, undoubtadly they will, but d'you think the gov had printed all this money and quantatively eased things, kepk Interests rates low just to put off the !!!! hitting the fan a year or two on????

It's cost this country millions to see us through this recesscion, kept many people in jobs and their homes. The alternative, to do nothing, would have been, inmediately disasterous.

It will have to be paid back, but gently, over many years. This IMO should be done by cutting public spending that shouldn't have been spent anyway. There's no reason why the average person should feel too much difference & by that I mean, cancelling certain proposed policies, that would cost a fortune, not work anyway, (they're already over budget) and nobody wants, nor needs