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2010 House Price Forecast + 5% to +10%....
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Graham_Devon wrote: »No I don't.
I thank anyone that has a go at you too.
Oh so it is not the content of the post or if you agree with abuse in general.
If that is the case I must remember to repay the favor Graham.:rolleyes:
But to be honest I am a bit less playground than that and will just thank posts I agree with or think they are making a good point.
No matter if they are a bull, bear, or some one I have crossed swords with in the past.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »No I don't.
I thank anyone that has a go at you too. Sometimes, I bring out rewired to double thank when they owned you.
it's all coming out now
is that like an internet term that losers on the internet who have 30,000 posts on an just one internet forum use?
good edit by the way - but too late
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Oh so it is not the content of the post or if you agree with abuse in general.
If that is the case I must remember to repay the favor Graham.:rolleyes:
But to be honest I am a bit less playground than that and will just thank posts I agree with or think they are making a good point.
No matter if they are a bull, bear, or some one I have crossed swords with in the past.
Thats what I just said a couple of posts up.
It was chucky that changed that into something else. You'll find I simply went along with the chuckyism's dear Really
Nice little tactic of changing words were playing today to have a little handbag argument isn't it?0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Thats what I just said a couple of posts up.
It was chucky that changed that into something else. You'll find I simply went along with the chuckyism's dear Really
Nice little tactic of changing words were playing today to have a little handbag argument isn't it?
right - just for a change Graham says something and then denies 3 posts later that he said it :rolleyes:
lol - so i have access to your keyboard and you never said that :rolleyes:0 -
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/article6963500.ece
What more can I say..... Perfectly encapsulates the arguments those of a more positive disposition have been making all year, and we have been right so far.
I think he's got it about right for the 2010 forecast here.
I'd be happy to hear any well reasoned argument to the contrary, but other than the usual (and already proven wrong) hpc soundbites, we just don't seem to get one....
So lets use this thread as the MSE 2010 house price forecast thread, post your forecast and reasoning why.
:beer:
You think he has got it right and you highlight a segment in bold.
Yet previously you have said "BTW, I suspect prices will indeed stall for a while, or maybe even decline for a few months"
You are contradicting yourself."There's no such thing as Macra. Macra do not exist."
"I could play all day in my Green Cathedral".
"The Centuries that divide me shall be undone."
"A dream? Really, Doctor. You'll be consulting the entrails of a sheep next. "0 -
bernard_shaw wrote: »In the context of the special liquidity support provided to the banks this year, it is little surprise that, matched by cautious sellers who do not wish to crystallise a loss, prices have been supported this year.
Oh really......
Fairly sure it came as a HUGE surprise to all you hpc-ers who were so merrily predicting doom, gloom, plague and pestilence for the housing market this year.
Only for it to end up with a 5% annual gain.
Judging by the level of bitterness from our more bearish posters, it must really hurt that the most accurate forecast for last year was that by Stuart Law of Assetz Management.
The question which should exercise us is that of what happens when that liquidity support is withdrawn - a process which will definitely begin in the spring. As the provision of this liquidity support has provoked a government debt crisis which can only be solved by fiscal means, a lot depends upon what form this fiscal solution will take.
I think we can all agree that fiscal policy will be tightened. However monetary policy is likely to remain wide open for years to come.
And do not confuse the lack of issuance of further QE, with the withdrawal of the existing additional liquidity provided by QE. Withdrawing this existing support is unlikely to happen for years.I wouldn't touch the housing market in 2010 with your money.
Well thats good..... As I have no intention of allowing you to touch my money to begin with.Oh, and stamp duty.
Oh, and VAT.
Oh, and history shows (as explored by Niall Ferguson in Newsweek) that, in the aftermath of dramatic increases in sovereign debt, the real interest rate always rises. We face an ongoing bonfire of the debtors right through to 2011 and beyond.
Oh, and rising population.
Oh, and rising household formation.
Oh, and increasing mortgage availability.
Oh, and decreasing deposit requirements.
Oh, and that ongoing bonfire of the debtors didn't work out so well for you last year, did it? Given George Osbornes article in the paper today clearly laying out Conservative policy for continuing a low interest rate environment for the long term, I rather suspect you'll be dissapointed on that front next year as well.Is my spelling OK?
Yes.
It's your logic that requires help.....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
right - just for a change Graham says something and then denies 3 posts later that he said it :rolleyes:
lol - so i have access to your keyboard and you never said that :rolleyes:
Christ, you are like a terrier on heat, nipping at the ankles everywhere I go.
For once, even for one day chucky. Grow up. Please.0 -
Spartacus_Mills wrote: »You think he has got it right and you highlight a segment in bold.
Yet previously you have said "BTW, I suspect prices will indeed stall for a while, or maybe even decline for a few months"
You are contradicting yourself.
As other posters have pointed out in this thread, it is entirely possible to believe prices can decline for a few months over this winter, and still rise in total over the course of next year.
Just as they did last year. When they declined from Dec to Feb, and then rose for the rest of the year, ending 5% up for the year in total.
If you have to resort to this type of fallacious pedantry to argue with me, you truly have no case worth arguing.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Thats what I just said a couple of posts up.
But your edit was not there when I quoted you.:rolleyes:0
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