Which one is cheating, Topcashback or Ebay?

Floxxie

dragonfruit wrote: »

Topcashback is displaying both eBay's revenue from which they calculate the cashback and the final price which was paid, so there is no confusion about that (have a look at the tables).
The question is what is eBay's revenue for the purpose of cashback? Because apparently it is not entire revenue eBay is getting from seller. Another question is why they pay 0%, 3% or 40%, and not the advertised 60%.
I think that you sent your post before reading first the entire thread, hence your questions.

No I read the entire thread and still ask you the same question.
Did you read the feedback from someone who had asked TCB the question?

"I asked TopCashback a question about why the amount I earned from Ebay differed from the amount I spent. This was their reply: "What I feel important to mention for the merchant Ebay, is that the cashback that you should receive following a purchase as a ‘Buyer’ will be a percentage of Ebay’s revenue as earned as a result of your transaction – and not the total sales value of a transaction. Therefore, Ebay’s revenue will be entered as your purchase amount for a particular cashback amount, and the cashback percentage will be calculated based on that figure. Ebay earn different amounts on transactions for example a shop or power Seller will pay significantly less than an average Seller, which will result in variation of cashback amounts." So beware, you won't know how much Cashback you are going to get from each seller on Ebay until you actually get it. "

Therefore you are only given the possible revenue that eBay have earnt and not the actual, as you could not know what eBay are charging a seller, then you cannot work out for definite what you will get.

The cashback sites make it clear in their T&Cs that cashback is not guaranteed so your option is to accept what you get or not to bother using them.

TurkishDelight

dragonfruit wrote: »

Well, that there is something wrong with your common sense, because according to both Quidco and TCB representatives it is listing fee (whatever that means), not Final Value Fee as your common sense tells you. Ask them yourself if you don't believe me.

If it was listing fee then you would be getting a share of 10p to up to £1.30 most of the time :rolleyes:
Most of the time it is 40% of 10% though, which means it is FVF
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/fees.html

For example- one of the items I have on TCB that I have won, starting price of £5, no listing upgrades, so that would have been a fee of 25p.
It went for £10.05, and I got 55p, so roughly 50% of 10%, which as they are a private seller they would have been charged. (It was during the 50% promo they did)

dragonfruit

TurkishDelight wrote: »

If it was listing fee then you would be getting a share of 10p to up to £1.30 most of the time :rolleyes:

And this is the case.

This is what TCB representative Ryan said:
"I'm afraid that it is not really possible for us in any given instance to explain as to as to how to this cashback figure has been calculated, due the large number of variables there can be in making a listing. From what we do notice however, this does not include the 'Final Value Fee' (i.e. 10% of your final selling value, capped at £40) - or at least not this fee in its entirety."

And this is what Steve from Quidco said:
"Ebay revenue is the money eBay.co.uk makes from the sale based on their listing fees less taxes (VAT). The revenue can vary depending on the sellers listing options and whether they use any discounts, donate a portion of the sale to charity etc."

No mention of FVF.

dragonfruit

TurkishDelight wrote: »

For example- one of the items I have on TCB that I have won, starting price of £5, no listing upgrades, so that would have been a fee of 25p.
It went for £10.05, and I got 55p, so roughly 50% of 10%, which as they are a private seller they would have been charged. (It was during the 50% promo they did)

Well then, check our eBay transactions listed in message no. 14.

TurkishDelight

dragonfruit wrote: »

And this is the case.

This is what TCB representative Ryan said:
"I'm afraid that it is not really possible for us in any given instance to explain as to as to how to this cashback figure has been calculated, due the large number of variables there can be in making a listing. From what we do notice however, this does not include the 'Final Value Fee' (i.e. 10% of your final selling value, capped at £40) - or at least not this fee in its entirety."

Then it would never be a uneven figure.

Basically, they are saying they don't know there, but they look like they are guessing. As you can see from the link I posted, fvfs are a lot more complicated than just 10%.
That is not taking into account the upto 40% discount that the big sellers get (I think it is still 40%- we're only on 20%, so I don't pay much attention )

dragonfruit

Floxxie wrote: »

No I read the entire thread and still ask you the same question.

Did you read the feedback from someone who had asked TCB the question?

I asked TCB and Quidco myself. Read the answers I got. It is not FVF.

TurkishDelight

dragonfruit wrote: »

Well then, check our eBay transactions listed in message no. 14.

Yes, I know, you are obviously having an individual problem. On your basis though, anything starting at 99p from a private seller would not be eligiable for cashback, and I know from transactions that have paid out that is not the case.

dragonfruit

TurkishDelight wrote: »

Then it would never be a uneven figure.

Basically, they are saying they don't know there, but they look like they are guessing. As you can see from the link I posted, fvfs are a lot more complicated than just 10%.
That is not taking into account the upto 40% discount that the big sellers get (I think it is still 40%- we're only on 20%, so I don't pay much attention )

It's not always complicated. I often buy from ordinary people, not businesess, so it is usually possible to calculate eBay revenue precisely in such cases.
Try explaining the earnings quoted in message #14.

dragonfruit

TurkishDelight wrote: »

Basically, they are saying they don't know there

I inserted also reply from Quidco now in message #34.

TurkishDelight

dragonfruit wrote: »

Try explaining the earnings quoted in message #14.

Honestly, I don't know. Do you always keep a clear browser? Do you use goofbay, or other third party applications?

All I know is that it can't possibly be on listing fees, and my cashback is coming through fine.
Not at 60% granted, but still fine.