MSE News: British Airways stalls on strike-affected flight refunds

lolarosegem

hyde, no of course we are not trained nurses as you rightly say that takes years. BUT if something happens to you on a flight, god forbid, heartattack, anaphylactic shock, choking, childbirth, it is us the cabin crew who will save your life. As you are nowhere near trained nurses. Just apparently "according to rude others on here" muppets.
How very rude some of you are. By all means argue the point, that's why there is a forum, but to reduce yourself to name calling is just pathetic.
Every single word i wrote is true, wether you care to believe or not.

I challenge each and every one of you, that if you went in to work tomorrow and your job description had completely changed, all chance of promotion gone, and the threat of a management team who have succeeding in "imposing" on you once, doing it again and again and again. You would be furious, you would be striking, and if not you are weak.

There is plenty money in BA for the fat cat's and the managers and the pilots. But not the workers who the customer relies upon. Believe the BA spin all you want.

For those of you more worried about your christmas than another persons livelihood, then boohoo, i'm glad you'll have a ruined christmas.

dad22

ok lolarosegem

your starter for 10...

which specific aircraft is losing 3 crew ?

redlooney

dad22 wrote: »

ok lolarosegem

your starter for 10...

which specific aircraft is losing 3 crew ?

Where do you get off calling someone "a muppet" in a previous post and then start patronising in the next one mate ?

Wind yer neck in

Dormouse

lolarosegem wrote: »

I am british airways cabin crew of 15 years standing, long haul route's and I can assure you that i earn nowhere near £29000. My last year p60 was £17,820.
I have two small children and i have not been at home for christmas for 7 (Yes you read that properly ) 7 years!!!
British Airways have taken 3 crew off the aircraft, they have taken my terms and conditions and ripped them up. They have taken away all chance of future promotion.
No more promotion ever on current contracts.

They have made crew demotivated and miserable.
We spend easters, family birthdays, christmas and special occasions away from home year in, year out.

We are now so exhausted that we genuinely worry that we are not as safe as we could be. Contrary to popular belief crew are not on board to serve drinks and meals, but for your safety. If worse came to worse on a flight wouldn't you prefer that the people responsible for your safety (remember we are the onboard firemen, nurses, doctors etc) could stand up and weren't so jetlagged they couldn't think straight?

I take it those of you who are criticising ba crew, don't believe in workers being able to take strike action ever? Or if you believe workers can strike, when should we strike? When it doesn't affect anyone at all. Well that would really have the company shaking in it's boots wouldnt' it?

I do feel sorry for anyone who has a ruined christmas, but i have been looking after passengers and ruining my families christmases for over 15 years to do a job i was proud to do, enjoyed and paid ok, yes just ok.

How many of you can step beyond the media soundbites and see that this is real people who are losing all their rights and are scared and worried for all their future Christmases. Criticising them because you may be having one 'ruined' christmas is selfish in the extreme.

For your information British Airways most certainly can 'call off the strike' Tony Woodley has made that offer today. Stop the impositions he made on november 16th (i.e. put the crew members back on board) and we will instantly stop the strike.
Mr Walsh (CEO of BA) reply. We are ready for the strike, bring it on.:mad:

How I wish we had an 'unthank' button on this forum. :mad::mad::mad:

You CHOSE to be in your job - you knew that it entails working over Christmases, Easters, family birthdays - don't try to make us feel sorry for you! :mad: Millions of people in this country have to work at Christmas, for goodness sake! Policemen, firemen and doctors do it all the time and just get on with it.

If you don't like your job - then leave it. Maybe spend more time with your small children. In the current economic situation, there are plenty of people who would love your job.

dad22

redlooney,

wind your neck in and let the lady answer.......

bootman

This waste of space surely must be a troll! or is that trolly dolly.

redlooney

Dormouse wrote: »

How I wish we had an 'unthank' button on this forum. :mad::mad::mad:

You CHOSE to be in your job - you knew that it entails working over Christmases, Easters, family birthdays - don't try to make us feel sorry for you! :mad: Millions of people in this country have to work at Christmas, for goodness sake! Policemen, firemen and doctors do it all the time and just get on with it.

If you don't like your job - then leave it. Maybe spend more time with your small children. In the current economic situation, there are plenty of people who would love your job.

Isnt that just the issue that BA and UNITE are trying to fight though - why should anyone have conditions forced on them ? BA management have shot themselves in the foot with their style of management and the 9 to 1 count for industrial action by BA staff speaks for itself. It's easy to say "get another job" in this day and age isnt it ?
They have conducted a fully legal ballot and have been successfull - they have every right to fight for their pay and conditions, the same as everyone else.
Nothing has been lost or won as yet - watch BA come crawling to the negotiation table, when shareholders start seeing the share price go through the floor :T

redlooney

dad22 wrote: »

redlooney,

wind your neck in and let the lady answer.......

Which one is she then mate - muppet or lady ? Put yer brain in gear eh ?

dad22

let's judge her by the answer.........

Dormouse

redlooney wrote: »

Isnt that just the issue that BA and UNITE are trying to fight though - why should anyone have conditions forced on them ? BA management have shot themselves in the foot with their style of management and the 9 to 1 count for industrial action by BA staff speaks for itself. It's easy to say "get another job" in this day and age isnt it ?
They have conducted a fully legal ballot and have been successfull - they have every right to fight for their pay and conditions, the same as everyone else.
Nothing has been lost or won as yet - watch BA come crawling to the negotiation table, when shareholders start seeing the share price go through the floor :T

The new conditions for the staff are one thing, but the OP was moaning about her 15 ruined Christmases, which is something that people in her job have to deal with all the time. not just recently.

I'm sorry, I do not agree with people fighting for their (questionable) rights at the expense of totally innocent people.