Is it time for me to move onto Firefox and not IE

asininity

Marty_J wrote: »

I thought all that had been sorted though?

Well my mind wasn't changed by what you said, I still think my privacy is an issue when using chrome. SWR Iron/Chromium are the same a chrome without the issues.

asininity

Looks like I'll be leaving firefox behind if this comes about: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/11/mozilla_add_on_marketplace/

Marty_J

asininity wrote: »

Well my mind wasn't changed by what you said, I still think my privacy is an issue when using chrome. SWR Iron/Chromium are the same a chrome without the issues.

But Chromium also uses suggestions for navigation errors and address bar auto-completion. And they're enabled by default (I'm typing this in Chromium right now).

Looks like I'll be leaving firefox behind if this comes about: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/11/mozilla_add_on_marketplace/

I take it you're not a software developer with a family to feed?

jbreckmckye

Sure, Firefox is vulnerable if you use the wrong plugins and addons, or use Greasemonkey without due warning. But then, that's the price you pay when you use a browser as extensible, and customizable as Firefox.

Isn't Opera supposed to be fairly secure, though?

asininity

Marty_J wrote: »

But Chromium also uses suggestions for navigation errors and address bar auto-completion. And they're enabled by default (I'm typing this in Chromium right now).

We both know it aint that, chrome indexes everything including https sites and stores in the history. Privacy issue!

But since you mention it the address bar has Google Suggest built into it. This means anything you type into the address bar, including partial URLS, etc, are sent to Google’s servers. Not only that, requests from the Omnibar send your Google cookies. That is, Google can link every single thing (URLs and searches) you type in the address bar back to your Google account and hence your personal identity.

Lets not forget this either: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9114059/Google_amends_Chrome_license_following_privacy_objections

No auto updater please.

I take it you're not a software developer with a family to feed?

No I'm a normal joe with a family to feed hence why I use free software, not paying for something I was getting for free... simples.

davb

I think Firefox are trying to nail down the extensions issue in 3.6
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/18/firefox_3_6_components_directory_lockdown/

Marty_J

asininity wrote: »

We both know it aint that, chrome indexes everything including https sites and stores in the history. Privacy issue!

Why is that a privacy issue?

All browsers have a history function.

But since you mention it the address bar has Google Suggest built into it. This means anything you type into the address bar, including partial URLS, etc, are sent to Google’s servers. Not only that, requests from the Omnibar send your Google cookies. That is, Google can link every single thing (URLs and searches) you type in the address bar back to your Google account and hence your personal identity.

Chromium does this too doesn't it?

And it's pretty easy to go into the preferences and turn this feature off with one click.

Lets not forget this either: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9114059/Google_amends_Chrome_license_following_privacy_objections

That article is over a year old, and Google's terms have since been updated.

No I'm a normal joe with a family to feed hence why I use free software, not paying for something I was getting for free... simples.

Just because they're opening an add-on store, it doesn't mean that all add-ons will cost money.

And if a developer does want to charge for their hard work, that's their business.

asininity

Marty_J wrote: »

Why is that a privacy issue?

All browsers have a history function.

Can all browsers recall you bank details from a https page? As in recall the actual page.

Chromium does this too doesn't it?

And it's pretty easy to go into the preferences and turn this feature off with one click.

Does it? Does it send it to google for google to track what you're doing?

That article is over a year old, and Google's terms have since been updated.

Didn't say it wasn't, just a little history about privacy.

Just because they're opening an add-on store, it doesn't mean that all add-ons will cost money.

And if a developer does want to charge for their hard work, that's their business.

If I cant use the addons I've been using for free for free then I dont use firefox simple, as you say its quite a lack luster browser without them.

Marty_J

asininity wrote: »

Can all browsers recall you bank details from a https page? As in recall the actual page.

Can Chrome?

I know there's an option to send anonymous usage statistics to Google, but this is disabled by default and has to be explicitly enabled.

Does it? Does it send it to google for google to track what you're doing?

It can do:

http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=114836&hl=en-GB

(link obtained from the Privacy section in Chromium's preferences)

If I cant use the addons I've been using for free for free then I dont use firefox simple, as you say its quite a lack luster browser without them.

Fair enough.

[Deleted User]

davb wrote: »

I think Firefox are trying to nail down the extensions issue in 3.6
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/18/firefox_3_6_components_directory_lockdown/

In my opinion, Mozilla's aim of having Firefox as cross platform as it is currently is unsustainable and it's necessary to fork the project and introduce Windows specific features if they wish to continue to compete at the same level in their post Google relationship (you can see it's starting to fray already).

In fact, I think Mozilla are in danger of re running the course, perhaps to a little less extent, that Microsoft did where changing aspects of their product was going to break compatibility and therefore aren't introduced when they should be.