Horizon now, BBC2 - Anybody Else Watching it? Overpopulation/Water etc

zygurat789

We will behave like every other species on this planet. watch the ladybird/greenfly relationship. Greenfly are eaten by ladybirds and their numbers decline so the number of ladybirds also declines due to lack of food, fewer ladybirds to eat the greeenfly means their population increases so more food for ladybirds anf their numbers increase etc etc.
Eventually we wont have enough food to feed all the humans on this planet, so, probably before we have eaten everything else we will start to reduce the competition. It's called a cull.
Global warming is not a problem, it is a symptom of the real porblem of overpopulation.

adr0ck

PasturesNew wrote: »

Except most people have never heard of one ... like me... this is the first time I've heard of one of those.

Are they everywhere?

to be honest i don't know

we do ours through the kids primary school

pick up a bag of fruit and a bag of veg every wednesday when picking the kids up - £3 each a bag

they also do a salad bag (havn't tried that yet)

its good value plus you know its sourced locally as much as possible and the moneys going straight to the farmers

lostinrates

Davesnave wrote: »

No, but Farmers' Markets are a kind of cooperative, and ordinary markets too, if you learn to differentiate between those who produce and those who buy-in. Then there's local WI Markets and country fairs etc in village halls. Finally, farm shops offer another way of going local.

There are some great farmers markets and village coops. In one village I lived in we could make and sell produce at the village hall on saturday mornings. I made lots of things that people could hve for lunch (lasagne in foil tins, pies, tarts, quiche) and lots of the older people would fill their freezers and pay the price: we got half the money back (so goods had to be priced to cover cost of ingrediants, energy, and a little bit extra, then doubled.) The village got half the money, we got half back.

We also have a village shop near here: community owned, selling organic stuff bought in...sort of health shop-y. But its LOTS more expensive.

Also lots ofthe farmers are a little greedy they charge more for the produce (cos it costs to run the shop). Its where Mr Tesco wins, but what is the normal consumer to do? Some can't make amoral purchse. I sort of feel obligated too a bit: because if those of us who can't don't, then there will no longer be a choice in the future.

Davesnave

I try to avoid Mr T. I can't avoid Mr M, Mr S and Mr W all the time, or shopping would take all week!

Where I can, I go local, but that includes all sorts of goods and services too. For example, I've had the van and Aga serviced, hired an electrician, had two deliveries of logs, obtained a gas cylinder and all my hedges have been cut, all without going outside the immediate community. DW also has her hair done locally and saves on that too. Nothing I've bought or had done here so far has been expensive.

We can get marmalade, chutney, eggs and some fruit/veg nearby, but ATM we have to go further afield for a farm shop or a market. When we've finished building the new shop and PO (it's a community venture and as far as the windows going in) it will be interesting to see what else can be had. There is a monthly magazine that's delivered here, so everyone who runs a micro-business, and there's lots, advertises in there.

Not everything available in the village is visible: for example, we didn't know that newspapers are there on a self-service basis, in someone's shed!

DW and I were selling in the very first farmers' market held in this country.:A

lostinrates

Davesnave wrote: »

There is a monthly magazine that's delivered here, so everyone who runs a micro-business, and there's lots, advertises in there.

hohoho, the source of MUCH politics in my village, the magazine. We've also got a village email now. This is considered alienating and cliquey, because the silly woman in charge of sending it out will insist on expressing surprise when those she considers below the salt, if they have email. As she's somewhere between the salt and pepper herself (and out here we wash down with cider, not seasoning) this is causing some...heat . :D:D

I was asked to day to run a village thing, and I'm afraid I just started to laugh....''n'ah-ah''I said... they can sort out there own wasp's nests...I'm not being asked cos they want me too, but because of further politics.:rolleyes: I find village politics interesting, but not something I care to stir the pot of myself.

Davesnave

I don't think there's that much politics here, honestly. You either participate or you are ignored, and that's about it really.

Not so much money about as in your area, and a fair number of incomers, like us, so there's less chance of people being set in their ways, maybe. It is all very different from how things were when I came to this area from London as a child @# years ago!