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Horizon now, BBC2 - Anybody Else Watching it? Overpopulation/Water etc

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  • Lotus-eater
    Lotus-eater Posts: 10,789 Forumite
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    vivatifosi wrote:
    but may give your cabbages a miss if you ever take up market gardening.
    Well the nutrients must come from somewhere, if you take it as normal that we get those nutrients atm from the oil that we pump from underground, is that better or worse than getting them from your own sterile water waste?
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  • vivatifosi
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    I'm one of those people who will go out in my garden, think ooh, a berry and pick it and eat it. Where's the fun in bringing it in and washing it? Can't do that if I think of things peeing on them. Having said that, Mum did always teach me to pick the higher (and I guess unpeed on except perhaps by a high jumper) berries.
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  • lostinrates
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    I'm one of those people who will go out in my garden, think ooh, a berry and pick it and eat it. Where's the fun in bringing it in and washing it? Can't do that if I think of things peeing on them. Having said that, Mum did always teach me to pick the higher (and I guess unpeed on except perhaps by a high jumper) berries.


    Me too.

    (now you know I'm a dirty !!!!!!...that's ''insecter'' BTW, nothing ruder). As I say, my pee...a bird's poop....all washed by some nice (probably polluted) rain.

    I do rub the mud off.
  • Dave101t
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    the higher unpeed on ones is definitely wise!
    back on topic, what do we care about water/population, we have a huge island all to ourselves, and i for one am surrounded by reservoirs up ere in t'north.
    my water bill gets paid by me, so im happy to pee it away hosing down the garden!
    (thats with the water, not 'my' water)
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  • edgex
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    I think it was the fat chav-scum mother who hid her daughter at her p.aedo uncle's house, while going on a media-fest for money; they dreamed up this brilliant plan after watching the coverage about Maddy and her family.

    perfect example of whats gone wrong with the benefits system
    & also strangely enough ties in quite well with the programme

    she kept having children, 7 in the end, yet never had the resources to provide for those children (except state benefits)
  • PasturesNew
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    Pee and poop go in the lavatory, always flush; other animal poop goes at the base of roses.

    Anybody messing about with these rules should be dragged through the courts and banned from producing food!
  • Davesnave
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    We olan to have reed bed filtration. Its not even a new alternative reintroduction: its been an eco build choice(where space is available) for a while. People are squeamish though.

    I'm not sure myself. OK in summer when everything is photosynthesising away, but what about now, when said reeds are dormant? How long is it before the whole thing silts up or overgrows when they're not?

    I just have the feeling that could be high maintenance. OTOH having some bloke pump out our septic tank every 18 months, and then disappear with it, is an awful waste of free nutrients too.
  • PasturesNew
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    To get it back on subject and away from dogs for at least one post....

    I was extremely suprised that they didn't mention oil running out in the program.
    It said that the world could support different variations in the amounts of billions of people, depending on how much we all consumed.
    Not a word about the amount of food the world can produce depends almost entirely on oil. Make that in shorter supply and food becomes more expensive, the poorer countries starve.
    IF oil runs out now, we all starve and go back to the nominal levels of population the world can support, without the skewed figures oil has produced.

    They did mention oil and its use in agriculture, but they didn't make too big a deal out of it. This programme was focussing more on number of people and water needs.

    To do my bit, I haven't had any babies since I watched the programme... I hope you lot are also doing your bit here!
  • PasturesNew
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    One of the things that's shocking to me is that we all flush our lavs with drinking-quality water. I'd love to get some method of using recycled water from the bath/kitchen sink/washing-machine going but have no idea where to start.
    There are systems, called grey water systems. They take your water from your bath/washing machine etc, filter it, then pipe it back into the loo.

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=grey+water+systems&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB&aq=f&oq=

    And the Govt page on this: http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/drought/38561.aspx
  • lostinrates
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    I'm not sure myself. OK in summer when everything is photosynthesising away, but what about now, when said reeds are dormant? How long is it before the whole thing silts up or overgrows when they're not?

    I just have the feeling that could be high maintenance. OTOH having some bloke pump out our septic tank every 18 months, and then disappear with it, is an awful waste of free nutrients too.


    I suppose it sdepends on how big your primary pools are. Its an option that is obviously suited to some regions better than others too.
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