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Horizon now, BBC2 - Anybody Else Watching it? Overpopulation/Water etc

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edited 10 December 2009 at 12:56AM in Debate House Prices & the Economy
It's interesting, started at 8pm though.

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  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    No...and too late now I guess. :(
  • PasturesNew
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    No...and too late now I guess. :(
    Well, it's still on ... for another 30 minutes.
  • PasturesNew
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    So far:
    "When I was born 50 years ago there were 2 billion people in the world, now there are 7 billion" by the presenter.

    And so far it's covered:
    - disappearing water
    - alternatives, why they won't work
    - producing higher yield crops
    - most water is needed for agriculture

    Right now, covering the chinese and saudi arabian companies who are buying foreign land. Britain is trying to buy a few plots. Mostly these plots are in countries who are already struggling to feed their own people.

    All this is only really a worry for people with kids etc .... it won't be long before the world runs out of land/food/water.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Well, it's still on ... for another 30 minutes.


    I'll never catch up. I'm the thirsty person joining the end of a line for limited water in an overpopulated country: the last drop in always polluted.
  • basically, we in the west have to give give give to the third world, so they can have more and more babies, which will result in us all starving and dying of thirst.

    good innit. give now, kill off your grandchildren.
  • PasturesNew
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    Oil now. Energy, fossil fuels.
    85 million barrels a day, providing pesticides, mechanisation etc that has enabled us to provide enough food for the population.
  • PasturesNew
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    Productive Biocapacity of the Earth: how many people is the maximum if it were shared exactly.
    2 global hectares each

    UK use 5.33 global hectares each.

    How many people can the Earth sustain: if we live like Indians, 15 billion; if we live like Brits then only 2.5 billion.
  • PasturesNew
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    3 ways to fix this:
    - stop using so many resources
    - reduce our technology
    - reduce population growth, have less children
  • PasturesNew
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    China brought in its "one child" policy

    India started sterilising criminals, as their punishment, but that brought down the Govt.
  • sjaypink
    sjaypink Posts: 6,740 Forumite
    Productive Biocapacity of the Earth: how many people is the maximum if it were shared exactly.
    2 global hectares each

    UK use 5.33 global hectares each.

    How many people can the Earth sustain: if we live like Indians, 15 billion; if we live like Brits then only 2.5 billion.
    IIRC, if we live like Americans make that 1.5 billion.... 9 hectares pp.

    Amazing how much we consume- big changes are needed now... scary stuff
    We cannot change anything unless we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses. Carl Jung

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