New Scrapage Scheme......Boilers.

Spartacus_Mills

adr0ck wrote: »

one thing to bear in mind

modern boilers only last for approx 5 years

therefore you need to factor in replacement costs of boiler 5 years down the line

I work for a boiler manufacturer and can state categorically this is not the case.

Boilers will last as long as people want them to as long as they are prepared to have them regularly serviced. If people do not have their boiler serviced then a fault is more likely to develop.

kabayiri

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

I work for a boiler manufacturer and can state categorically this is not the case.

Boilers will last as long as people want them to as long as they are prepared to have them regularly serviced. If people do not have their boiler serviced then a fault is more likely to develop.

Quality boilers are still made in this country, and a wider servicing regime will mean more money spent in the local economy.

Plus the gas savings will be felt in the pocket.

A question though. How do they ensure that this extra £300 is not pocketed by Heating engineers?

Really2

bryanb wrote: »

Inferior materials used to reduce manufacturing costs. Outsourcing of electronic component manufacture. Complex control systems where simple is needed.

Like cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Oh hang on the average car has a life nearly double that of a car 20 years ago.
Electronics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh hang on the average computer is far more reliable than 10 years ago.

Metal etc are far better than years ago.

i really do not know why everyone raves on "things were better made in the past"

It really is Bull S*** unless we are talking fine intricate hand made stuff like watches.

If you want a true cost/reliability look at boiler age and carbon monoxide poisoning.

Dan:_4

FOR GODS SAKE.....a new boiler will last for more then 5 years !!!

Lotus-eater

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

If people do not have their boiler serviced then a fault is more likely to develop.

Can you tell me why? AIUI they do a quick sweep out and rejig the flame when servicing. And that's about it.
When it's nearly always the electronics that go wrong on new boilers............

Heyman_2

BlondeHeadOn wrote: »

We have an old back boiler, never given us any trouble, regularly serviced, perfectly happy with it. Never cost us anything in repairs in 12 years (and it was old when we moved into this house where it was installed).

My FIL has a new-ish condensing boiler, cost a fortune, goes wrong at a drop of a hat, and apparently can't cope with power cuts or power surges (and it's a gas boiler ). Just cost £700 to fix after the electric went off for some tree cutting outside ....

You know what? Stuff the boiler scrappage scheme, I think the modern ones are the ones that are closest to needing scrapping, not the reliable old type!

:cool:

Totally agree - our back boiler is OLD, but serviced once a year and it does the job with a minimum of fuss. Only issue we've had in 3 years was the pump dying a death, but technically that's not the boiler and was only a £90 p+l fix. :money:

kabayiri

Really2 wrote: »

It really is Bull S*** unless we are talking fine intricate hand made stuff like watches.

And CDs (vs vinyl).

No one really admires the artwork in the CD casing do they? (assuming you have managed to prise it out of that bliddy case without breaking it)

adr0ck

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Boilers will last as long as people want them to as long as they are prepared to have them regularly serviced. .

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Heyman_2

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Can you tell me why? AIUI they do a quick sweep out and rejig the flame when servicing. And that's about it.
When it's nearly always the electronics that go wrong on new boilers............

I think it's more important on older boilers like mine - they need to make sure everything is still working ok + safe. Our plumber took the entire boiler apart and put it back together again, which whilst scary was reassuring as he gave everything a good check over and clean!

All for £50 too :money:

Really2

kabayiri wrote: »

And CDs (vs vinyl).

No one really admires the artwork in the CD casing do they? (assuming you have managed to prise it out of that bliddy case without breaking it)

But how reliable is your CD compared to vinyl(a CD can scratch and can still play without loss of sound quality). Thanks for that