New Scrapage Scheme......Boilers.

Lotus-eater

Really2 wrote: »

I think it may be cheaper as heating oil really did tank when oil dropped, gas is only about 10-15% cheaper than peak.

Yeah but........ oil peaked out at about 70 odd pence, a huge spike.

Normally oil is about 20% odd more expensive to run than gas, plus you look at the bloody gauge all the time, so people on oil use less in general than someone on gas who doesn't think about it.
Oil boilers are more efficient than gas though, or they always used to be anyway, not sure about the new generation.

We have our heating at 16 when I'm feeling flush, 15 otherwise, but we did have the woodburner on the last couple of nights because it was so damn cold!
18 degrees, pah, luxury I tell you!

Really2

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Yeah but........ oil peaked out at about 70 odd pence, a huge spike.

Normally oil is about 20% odd more expensive to run than gas, plus you look at the bloody gauge all the time, so people on oil use less in general than someone on gas who doesn't think about it.
Oil boilers are more efficient than gas though, or they always used to be anyway, not sure about the new generation.

I think there is only a couple of % in it now.
I was saying I think Oil is currently cheaper to run (not sure if that was clear).

It was funny by us it was hit and miss if there was gas to some small hamlets or not. Even some of the small areas around some of the towns were oil

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

We have our heating at 16 when I'm feeling flush, 15 otherwise, but we did have the woodburner on the last couple of nights because it was so damn cold!
18 degrees, pah, luxury I tell you!

I agree, for most. Households with young, old or ill in them might benefit from warmth though. e.g. we have heating on mainly for my mother..having had surgeries which have resulted in some nasty localised arthritis she has to keep at least that bit of her warm ATM. In Italy you are only allowed heating between state approved dates (Late oct- March) and at a set heat ...although not too closely monitored. Unless medical reason. I think its a pretty good system actually...despite me not liking too much state involvement.

My family call our section of house the vortex...you feel the cold as you come past, but feels just right too me. When you go in and out a lot I think dramatic changes in temperature aren't that healthy either.

Lotus-eater

lostinrates wrote: »

I agree, for most. Households with young, old or ill in them might benefit from warmth though.

We have 2 young kids , old people can suffer though and I'm sure when I get to my dotage I'm going to want the heating on all day, in my tiny well insulated bungalow.
Kids are hardier than you think and my Dad's generation managed to survive into middle age without any central heating.......... somehow...... if you listen to child experts telling you how warm children's bedrooms should be.:rolleyes:

Lotus-eater

Really2 wrote: »

I think there is only a couple of % in it now.
I was saying I think Oil is currently cheaper to run (not sure if that was clear).

It was clear, I just didn't agree with you

However, this web page says you are right.... always a first time eh?;)
http://www.biomassenergycentre.org.uk/portal/page?_pageid=75,59188&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

Really2

Lotus-eater wrote: »

always a first time eh?;)
http://www.biomassenergycentre.org.uk/portal/page?_pageid=75,59188&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

A'rnt I always.:)
But even if my brilliance goes unrecognised, I don't like to gloat.

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

We have 2 young kids , old people can suffer though and I'm sure when I get to my dotage I'm going to want the heating on all day, in my tiny well insulated bungalow.
Kids are hardier than you think and my Dad's generation managed to survive into middle age without any central heating.......... somehow...... if you listen to child experts telling you how warm children's bedrooms should be.:rolleyes:

You know, as a baby I was left outside in my pram for three hours, undercover if it were raining or hot, whatever country we were in, and I've always thought thats part of what makes me quite hardy...but tiny babies are better a bit warm no? Though I have a friend who had a baby a few years ago and when we went to see the little cutey it was in a boiling flat, in a sort of sleeping bag (and with clothes on) under the duvet in its parents bed....I though over heat was a higher risk of cot death or something.....

Really2

For LIR and Lotus.

If you ever look to get rid of your oil fire boilers wood pellet would be your way to go.

Very green creds and should not rocket in price like oil (they are pellets made from wood cutting sawdust if you don't know) Even now with heating oil so low it is as cheap per KW/Hr

I would not be surprised if you could get grants on them also as they tick the right boxes on renewable resource heating.

Also efficient also (well just over 90%http://www.bioenergy.org/wood_pellet.html)

Just a thought, i looked in to it a bit has i came across it when looking for a modern multi fuel burner. (never did the multi fuel burner in the end).

edit,
Just looked on that link and it says you could in theory get a grant.

Wenthen

Wenthen wrote: »

Q - What sort of poisonous fumes? ....



I could still be giggling about this tomorrow :rotfl::rotfl:

Just TOO silly :xmassmile

treliac

lostinrates wrote: »

You know, as a baby I was left outside in my pram for three hours, undercover if it were raining or hot, whatever country we were in, and I've always thought thats part of what makes me quite hardy...but tiny babies are better a bit warm no? Though I have a friend who had a baby a few years ago and when we went to see the little cutey it was in a boiling flat, in a sort of sleeping bag (and with clothes on) under the duvet in its parents bed....I though over heat was a higher risk of cot death or something.....

Or at the very least, a nasty heat rash.