Fine for parking in disabled space

biscuitdunker

Altarf wrote: »

But that is exactly the point. Why would anyone who was considered disabled under the DDA, but who doesn't need to park close to the store, park in a 'disabled' space.

Because they're disabled according to the DDA and the spaces are supposed to be for people who are considered disabled according to the DDA.

molerat

Altarf wrote: »

But why would a person deemed disabled by the DDA and who needs to park close to the shop entrance, not have a blue badge?

Disabled spaces are not always close to the entrance. My local MrT's run to the far end of the car park. If you cannot walk to the store how the hell are you going to walk round it. They are wide spaces to allow people with impaired mobility to open their doors wide enough to get in and out of the car. My FIL could not walk very far and used a wheelchair but could not tick enough boxes on the form to get a blue badge. He had to fully open the car doors to get in and out, almost impossible in a normal space. Some councils use very strict guidlines to issue badges.

Altarf

biscuitdunker wrote: »

Because they're disabled according to the DDA and the spaces are supposed to be for people who are considered disabled according to the DDA.

So you are saying that someone suffering from any disability that meets the DDA is entitled to park in a 'disabled' space, even if they would have no problem parking in the normal car park. Fair enough.

trisontana

This from a document (pdf) issued by the Mayor of London:-

The DDA 1995 requires reasonable adjustments to be made for any disabled person
who is disadvantaged by an employer’s or a service provider’s arrangements because
of their disability. In this report we have assumed that any disabled people who are
disadvantaged by parking arrangements are Blue Badge holders, and so can use
Blue Badge spaces, but this may not be the case and therefore, technically,
employers and service providers who provide parking solely for Blue Badge holders
may still be in breach of the DDA

biscuitdunker

Altarf wrote: »

So you are saying that someone suffering from any disability that meets the DDA is entitled to park in a 'disabled' space, even if they would have no problem parking in the normal car park. Fair enough.

That's what the law is saying.

Actually, on reflection, you added that last bit and it's not actually anything anyone has said in this thread besides you - whether or not YOU BELIEVE they would have a problem parking in a normal car park is beside the point - it only matters that they do not have to have a blue badge in order to park in a disabled place. Glad we've got that sorted.

Altarf

So if their disability means that they have no need to park in a 'disabled' bay but they are just feeling a bit lazy that day, that is fine?

ckerrd

Park where you will.

biscuitdunker

Altarf wrote: »

So if their disability means that they have no need to park in a 'disabled' bay but they are just feeling a bit lazy that day, that is fine?

Who are you to determine whether they have a need to use the disabled bay? How have you come to this conclusion?

molerat

DDA and blue badge schemes are entirely different subjects. This is a problem which Scotland is addressing by bringing private disabled parking under the legal blue badge framework. This has opened up another huge can of worms in respect of cost and individual parking spaces. Not everything is clear cut.

Altarf

I was responding to your post 46 which you said they could, before you edited it.

Perhaps we need to go back an hour, so you could give an example of someone (other than the mythical overseas person) who is disabled under the DDA and who needs to park in a disabled space close to a supermarket entrance, but is not entitled to a blue badge.