Fine for parking in disabled space

biscuitdunker

Altarf wrote: »

I thought people who were registered blind were automatically eligible for a blue badge?

People who are partially sighted at not registered blind. Also, people who are deaf are considered disabled by the DDA, and yet do not automatically qualify for BBs.

Altarf

Obviously it is a choice whether to apply for a blue badge or not, but clearly if you need it, by needing to park next to the supermarket entrance, then it is going to be desirable in other circumstances.

And as I said before, if someone is registered blind (and 96% of people registered blind have some sight) they are automatically eligible for a blue badge.

biscuitdunker wrote: »

Also, people who are deaf are considered disabled by the DDA, and yet do not automatically qualify for BBs.

I struggle to understand why a person suffering from deafness would need to park next to a supermarket entrance, but their condition would not entitle them to a blue badge.

biscuitdunker

Altarf wrote: »

And as I said before, if someone is registered blind (and 96% of people registered blind have some sight) they are automatically eligible for a blue badge.

You can be registered as partially sighted rather than blind. If you look at many local council blue badge scheme websites you'll see this:

"Q:I am registered partially sighted. Will I automatically qualify for a Blue Badge?
A: No. Only a person who is registered as blind under the National Assistance Act 1948 automatically qualifies for a Blue Badge."

Altarf

So these are people who need to park next to the supermarket entrance, because their disability prevents them from walking from the main car park, but are not able to obtain a blue badge.

I would have thought that if someone had such a disability, then they would have no problem obtaining a blue badge, and that not having one would cause them severe difficulties.

Altarf

trisontana wrote: »

As somebody has already pointed out on this forum. The supermarkets are actually breaking the DDA if they say that the disabled spaces are limited to blue badge holders. The DDA states that disabled spaces must be provided in private car-parks, but there is no mention of blue badges in the act. So the supermarkets are actually discriminating against some disabled people.

Altarf wrote: »

But why would a disabled person who was eligible for a blue badge, and clearly needed it as they needed to park next to the shop entrance, not apply for one?

trisontana wrote: »

I don't know, but see the answer by biscuitdunker above.

So you were just repeating what someone else said, without understanding it. Fair enough.

Devol

trisontana wrote: »

The DDA requires any operator of a private car park to provide spaces for disabled drivers. What it does not say is that those drivers must be in possession of a blue badge, as this scheme does not apply to private car parks. Direct. Gov. Website


My daughter was in a wheel chiar last year for 9 months thankfully now she is back to full health. As it was a temp disablement she wasnt entitled to a blue badge grrrrrr.

The majority of supermarkets and shopping centres' around me all had disabled parking for blue badge holders only, including my local hospital which we had to attend on a daily basis.

However i never once parked in these spaces as i thought i wasnt entitled too, i only wish i had your knowledge Trinsontana.

i was so mad at the time and even more mad now knowing that i could have used these spaces legally and saved my daughter a great deal of pain trying to get into her wheel chair in smaller size parking bays.

biscuitdunker

Altarf wrote: »

So you were just repeating what someone else said, without understanding it. Fair enough.

I don't know how you came to this conclusion. Clearly people exist who are disabled but do not have blue badges. These people have every right to use disabled parking spaces in private car parks, and yet they are given fines - these are the people who are being discriminated against - the people trisontana mentioned earlier. Is this difficult to understand?

If a French person in a wheelchair went to a supermarket in the UK, would they be entitled to use a disabled bay even though they have no blue badge? Clearly, yes - and yet many of them will be fined for doing so. Clearly discrimination.

Altarf

biscuitdunker wrote: »

I don't know how you came to this conclusion. Clearly people exist who are disabled but do not have blue badges. These people have every right to use disabled parking spaces in private car parks.

But you have failed (with the exception of the mythical overseas person) to demonstrate anyone who would not qualify for a blue badge, but would be considered to be disabled under the DDA and need to park close to the store entrance.

biscuitdunker

Altarf wrote: »

But you have failed (with the exception of the mythical overseas person) to demonstrate anyone who would not qualify for a blue badge, but would be considered to be disabled under the DDA and need to park close to the store entrance.

They're not mythical, as incredible as it may seem, disabled people do travel abroad like other people. Crazy, huh?

This aside, you're actually arguing quite disingenuously. You know that you were told originally that people who are considered disabled by the DDA are not always entitled to blue badges - and yet you're now adding your own stipulations - they must now be considered disabled by the DDA and in your view need to park close to the store. Whether or not you consider they should need to park close to the store is beside the point. They are considered disabled by the DDA, and yet they are fined for using disabled bays. Clearly discrimination, as trisontana stated earlier.

Altarf

biscuitdunker wrote: »

you were told originally that people who are considered disabled by the DDA are not always entitled to blue badges - and yet you're now adding your own stipulations - they must now be considered disabled by the DDA and in your view need to park close to the store. Whether or not you consider they should need to park close to the store is beside the point.

But that is exactly the point. Why would anyone who was considered disabled under the DDA, but who doesn't need to park close to the store, park in a 'disabled' space.