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rottweiler at school gates - opinions?

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  • Doom_and_Gloom
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    edited 2 December 2009 at 4:00PM
    Rottweilers although a large breed and look rather impossing are by and large a docile breed that are very good with children. This is because they were bred as a working dog so are rather easy to train and are as such a good all around dog.

    Saying this there are always some that don't have the right owner and if not trained properly can easily become nasty. I will say though that if the dog was wearing a collar whilst on a lead on grounds not in a school the owner was going by the law (from what I know). Even though it is a bigger dog there isn't a law (that I know of ) that says you must have said dog muzzled.

    In my family we always muzzle big dogs but only as a precaution not as a necessity. To be honest I think the staffie collie cross we have now is more of a problem than the alsatian rotti cross we used to have. The dog we have now gets scared easily (is afraid of wires for example) and is very jumpy so has more chance of bitting due to being afraid. Last dog wasn't afraid of anything so didn't bite (however he did bite one of my friends once when coming through the side gate as he was barking at a dog he could see. He didn't mean to do it, ran as soon as he had done it and you could tell he felt guilty. My friend still came round after and was fine with him as she realised we probably should have used the 'front' door and not the side gate. The dog was cautious about being around her after it strangely :rotfl:).

    As it is children should be taught to respect dogs not to fear them. You should know that a dog has the capability of being agressive but you should not assume that a dog will be. I have shocked a few dog owner by asking them if their dog is okay with being touched, they respond with yes/no/depends. I nearly always go in for a pet even if they say no (not advisable but I'm used to dogs so not easily scared by them). If you are confident with approaching a dog they are more likely going to be fine with you touching them as I have proved to several owners who said no. Show respect to the animal than they will more than likely respect you.
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  • lisawood78
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    My dogs go to the school gates with me if I am collecting my nieces, 5 and 10.
    We do stand near to the gate, but not blocking it (and never leaving any dog mess behind!)
    If someone politely asked me to move then I would, hasn't happened yet though.
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  • tiamai_d
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    It wasnt the little one though was it it was the OP an adult who has her own mind and her own tongue in her head ~ one would hope :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Yeah, but to save her blushes she could have said it was the little one, most people would have no problem moving for a child.

    (I am not saying that there is anything wrong with being afraid of dogs but most adults who are afraid of dogs would be mature enough to pass one that was sitting calmly - the sitting and that the owner wasn't holding on tightly would suggest the dog was calm)

    Course, if she had asked the woman to move and got a load of lip, we would all be saying how terrible it was and how she should totally complain, but she didn't ask, she just made a LOT of assumptions. Know what they say about assume...
  • mikey72
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    Using your logic then, dogs should not be outside the house between 08:15 - 09:00 and 14:30 - 15:45 in case they meet a child.

    Should we ban vehicles for those periods as well. They kill and injure more children in a day than animals do in a year.

    I like your logic, and quite agree.
    If you look outside a school you can see the stripey lines where you can't park.
    Stripey lines on the pavement where you can't stand with dogs as well sounds perfect.
  • tiamai_d wrote: »
    Yeah, but to save her blushes she could have said it was the little one, most people would have no problem moving for a child.

    (I am not saying that there is anything wrong with being afraid of dogs but most adults who are afraid of dogs would be mature enough to pass one that was sitting calmly - the sitting and that the owner wasn't holding on tightly would suggest the dog was calm)

    Course, if she had asked the woman to move and got a load of lip, we would all be saying how terrible it was and how she should totally complain, but she didn't ask, she just made a LOT of assumptions. Know what they say about assume...

    Oh i agree with you i just think the OP has gone completely the wrong way about this and should have just asked the owner to move a bit never mind what the excuse was i dont know of any dog owner that would object to that if it was making another person uncomfortable!

    I actually had the opposite situation this morning with my friends jack russell when i took him to the shop with me he was on a lead and he was muzzled, i went into the shop and he was fine until 2 middle aged women started trying to talk to him he started barking and growling (he is grumpy and very wary of people he doesnt know) when i went outside they started telling me how lovely he was and that when they started talking to him he was barking as if he was saying hello back at which point i pointed out that he was wary of people he didnt know which is why he was barking and growling. They insisted on stroking him anyway and he has since been in a bad mood all day because some people just dont listen :rolleyes:
  • MrsTinks
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    Possibly - but it ISN'T the law so doesn't apply :) If you want it to be then I think you need by petitioning number 10...

    However looking at the number of people who flaunt the lines outside schools for parking... I don't hold much hope even if it got passed... and even then you'd have the same dogs clumped 10 yards down the road instead on an often narrower piece of pavement... so surely the situation would actually be a lot worse?
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  • I dont know the woman personally, but have seen her about and kind of have a feeling I might have got a bit of lip back (dont think she is a verr clever lady either)

    Comments like that really p!ss me off! Who are you to judge if somone is clever or not
    As for the dog. I got attacked as a kid by a dog.. a horrible little jack russel, where as the big dogs we are were so docile
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  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    Putting my views on the topic to one side for a moment, I find this thread interesting!

    I'm a dog lover and can't imagine my life without one tbh, so for me it's very odd to see people talk about them as though they are wild animals and need treating as I would a rattle snake, for example. Some of the posts on here are like a foreign language to me.

    I'm not getting into the rights and wrongs of it but I do find it very odd, because, for me, dogs need to be treated with respect, and yes, they are animals first and foremost, but they are also great companions and make brilliant family pets. I certainly don't automatically see them as 'threatening' iyswim?

    I guess those of you who are more wary find it hard to see why we dog lovers are so fond of them...?

    Just my thoughts... :D

    As you were... :p
  • miamoo
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    I used to take my Doberman to school when I picked DD up from primary, no one ever complained, why would they! If she was off her lead then fair enough thats wrong, but sat by me, on a lead whats the problem.
    Mia is a big dog but not one kid has ever been scared of her, in fact I have had kids around that are scared of dogs (because their parents told them they were) that love mia to bits!
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  • MrsTinks
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    and if someone asked if a dog was friendly and was told no... wether or not you're the dogwhisperer or some sort of animal communicator - WHY would you approach their dog if they have expressed that it would be a bad idea????
    If a child sees this and then assumes that "well THEY were told no and nothing happened..." and the child gets told no but still comes up to the dig and gets bit... the poor dog and it's owner will be at fault!
    I ask people not to pet my dog and frankly you'd get a mouthful if you petted mine after me asking you not to! More to the point - I spend a LOT of time training her because she has issues - someone coming up to her excites her and would leave me with a totally excited dog which I then have to try and get back under control safely and you'd be able to walk off as you please...

    If someone says no to "is it friendly/can I pet it" then PLEASE DON'T IGNORE THEM!
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