rottweiler at school gates - opinions?

PrincessPlaty

bestpud wrote: »

Putting my views on the topic to one side for a moment, I find this thread interesting!

I'm a dog lover and can't imagine my life without one tbh, so for me it's very odd to see people talk about them as though they are wild animals and need treating as I would a rattle snake, for example. Some of the posts on here are like a foreign language to me.

I'm not getting into the rights and wrongs of it but I do find it very odd, because, for me, dogs need to be treated with respect, and yes, they are animals first and foremost, but they are also great companions and make brilliant family pets. I certainly don't automatically see them as 'threatening' iyswim?

I guess those of you who are more wary find it hard to see why we dog lovers are so fond of them...?

Just my thoughts...

As you were...

I agree with this completely how ever i am not a dog owner (although i dont mind borrowing harv occasionally :rotfl: ) i do love dogs and i grew up with them however i dont think i could have one at home with me permanently i think its the whole idea of cleaning up dog poo that puts me off I have enough of that with changing nappies :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

mikey72

bestpud wrote: »

Putting my views on the topic to one side for a moment, I find this thread interesting!

I'm a dog lover and can't imagine my life without one tbh, so for me it's very odd to see people talk about them as though they are wild animals and need treating as I would a rattle snake, for example. Some of the posts on here are like a foreign language to me.

I'm not getting into the rights and wrongs of it but I do find it very odd, because, for me, dogs need to be treated with respect, and yes, they are animals first and foremost, but they are also great companions and make brilliant family pets. I certainly don't automatically see them as 'threatening' iyswim?

I guess those of you who are more wary find it hard to see why we dog lovers are so fond of them...?

Just my thoughts...

As you were...

I know people who keep snakes, they swear they're lovely pets, wouldn't eat you unless they were hungry, (well, not you really, just a very small mammal, usually frozen and defrosted) if you're a good owner it's a good snake etc.

bestpud

MrsTine wrote: »

and if someone asked if a dog was friendly and was told no... wether or not you're the dogwhisperer or some sort of animal communicator - WHY would you approach their dog if they have expressed that it would be a bad idea????
If a child sees this and then assumes that "well THEY were told no and nothing happened..." and the child gets told no but still comes up to the dig and gets bit... the poor dog and it's owner will be at fault!
I ask people not to pet my dog and frankly you'd get a mouthful if you petted mine after me asking you not to! More to the point - I spend a LOT of time training her because she has issues - someone coming up to her excites her and would leave me with a totally excited dog which I then have to try and get back under control safely and you'd be able to walk off as you please...

If someone says no to "is it friendly/can I pet it" then PLEASE DON'T IGNORE THEM!

That annoys me too!

My dd ran up to a puppy in the park a few months back and the owner told her off, and then sort of started apologising to me for her actions. I told her, in front of dd, that she was absolutely right to tell her off because dd had no idea whether or not it was friendly.

We have a pup ourselves and tbh, when I thought about it after, she probably thought a puppy was different from a big dog iyswim?

My other bugbear though, is other dog owners who let their dog run around mine when he is on lead! :mad: Or those who assume I am happy for their dog to jump up at me because I own one and know 'how they are'.

bestpud

mikey72 wrote: »

I know people who keep snakes, they swear they're lovely pets, wouldn't eat you unless they were hungry, (well, not you really, just a very small mammal, usually frozen and defrosted) if you're a good owner it's a good snake etc.

Lol, I was thinking of wild snakes!

But actually, I'd be a tad wary if a parent stood at the school gate with a snake round their shoulders! :eek:

PrincessPlaty

bestpud wrote: »

My other bugbear though, is other dog owners who let their dog run around mine when he is on lead! :mad:

I actually had to ring the dog warden yesterday, there was another jack russell running about in the street and as soon as he saw me walking harv he decided to take a shine to him i brought him in and this dog sat outside my door for 25minutes!!! Was only when a neighbour turned up and said its so and so's dog it is out all the time they took it in It was as if it was ok coz the dog was used to running up and down the street on his own :eek:

candygirl

bestpud wrote: »

Lol, I was thinking of wild snakes!

But actually, I'd be a tad wary if a parent stood at the school gate with a snake round their shoulders! :eek:

Especially if they looked thick too:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:or fitted any other stereotype;):D

lostinrates

bestpud wrote: »

That annoys me too!

My dd ran up to a puppy in the park a few months back and the owner told her off, and then sort of started apologising to me for her actions. I told her, in front of dd, that she was absolutely right to tell her off because dd had no idea whether or not it was friendly.

We have a pup ourselves and tbh, when I thought about it after, she probably thought a puppy was different from a big dog iyswim?

My other bugbear though, is other dog owners who let their dog run around mine when he is on lead! :mad: Or those who assume I am happy for their dog to jump up at me because I own one and know 'how they are'.

And me. If I ask some one not to pet an animal its for a reason. It might not even be its manners: but a training reason. Please do NOT stroke or talk to a dog if asked not to by the handler!!

betspud, as an an on and where appropriate off lead walker, I hear you about other dogs. When I take just ur three out I find it particularly offensive when people ask me to keep my big dogs on lead for the sake of their little dogs (mine are VERY well socialised with lother dogs, including little dogs) but let their little ones leap and bounce around mine, whether aggressively or to try and get them to play. I'm more than happy to put my dogs on a lead and do so when approaching other dogs and people and I'm happy to let my dogs play with other dogs, once its clear this is acceptable to the other party too, but to be asked to hold my good dgs for other people's nughty/playful ones not to be is frustrating. But I do it neverthe less.

mikey72

bestpud wrote: »

Lol, I was thinking of wild snakes!

But actually, I'd be a tad wary if a parent stood at the school gate with a snake round their shoulders! :eek:

What about a dancing bear on a chain.
Do we all agree that's a bad idea, or are there bear lovers on this forum?
From the danger to the public view, not from the cruelty to bear view.

lostinrates

mikey72 wrote: »

What about a dancing bear on a chain.
Do we all agree that's a bad idea, or are there bear lovers on this forum?
From the danger to the public view, not from the cruelty to bear view.

Is the bear at the gate or a few metres down?
Legislation exists about the guardianship/ownership and keeping conditions of some animals, (including some breeds of dog) that render this question and position rather redundant.

I'd also like no bad, or rude people around, but (when a matter of taste not legislature) we have to accept this is beyond our control.

Doom_and_Gloom

MrsTine wrote: »

and if someone asked if a dog was friendly and was told no... wether or not you're the dogwhisperer or some sort of animal communicator - WHY would you approach their dog if they have expressed that it would be a bad idea????
If a child sees this and then assumes that "well THEY were told no and nothing happened..." and the child gets told no but still comes up to the dig and gets bit... the poor dog and it's owner will be at fault!
I ask people not to pet my dog and frankly you'd get a mouthful if you petted mine after me asking you not to! More to the point - I spend a LOT of time training her because she has issues - someone coming up to her excites her and would leave me with a totally excited dog which I then have to try and get back under control safely and you'd be able to walk off as you please...

If someone says no to "is it friendly/can I pet it" then PLEASE DON'T IGNORE THEM!

This is obviously aimed at me. I take a judgement from what the owner says (if the dog is in training or simular obviously I'm not going to as that's a given) and how the dog is. I've never had an owner have a go at me for touching their dog after they said no as they are amazed that someone other than them is able to give attention to the dog. Dogs do deserve attention from other people if possible and a lot of these dogs that are usually unable to let people near them do get a lot from such attention. I also realise that it would be my fault if something did happen (and would let this be known if something did happen as I refuse to let an animal to be destroyed in such a circumstance) but the same could be said for a dog that is usually fine!

I'm not stupid, I've just run across owners who are a bit too carefull with a dog that is fine really.