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  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite
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    Your husband should go in and shout about their breach of contract and state it is their own fault for not having big enough clocks for them all to see.

    Demand a million quid .


    That is probably the most sensibile thing you have ever said. Keep up the good work.
  • Is it only me who's thinking 'That's what he says' - the OP is very worried, and clearly this is a serious situation for them, so I'm not trying to muddy the waters, but might it be the case that the 'one or two minutes' late back on a 'few occasions' is actually more like 'five minutes' late back , and 'frequently'?


    I know my husband's no saint, and he got himself into hot water at work a couple of times when younger (sacked once, in fact). I stuck up for him, got him the best advice we could afford, it all worked out ok in the long run, he learned his lesson (eventually!)

    however


    when I was clearing out his wardrobe and I found letters from his bosses detailing earlier allegations/incidents, that he'd had, and had hidden from me, the whole house of cards nearly came tumblng down. I was so furious that I couldn't even speak to him for a few days, because if I had, it would have been the end for us. He reason was that he 'didn't want to worry' me; I think the truth of it was that he was ashamed of what he'd done and couldn't bring himself to tell me the whole story.

    I'm only offering my experience as a way of saying to the poster that maybe she isn't getting all the facts - I hope she is, but it may not be the case. Good luck to you, anyhow. It's not an easy situation, but all you can do is cross your fingers and hope for the best. If he's made mistakes, he'll have to deal with the consequences. You are really in a powerless position here, as only he can make sure he follows basic rules at work - good for you for standing by him, but that really is just about the extent of anything you can do.
    Reason for edit? Can spell, can't type!
  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    How old is the OP's husband. From the tenor of the posts and his seeming inability to tell the time, I'm guessing around 6 or 7.

    Might I suggest someone calls the police or social services?
  • eamon
    eamon Posts: 2,321 Forumite
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    A minute or two late can appear so small and insignificant. But as other have stated you need to upscale it to see all the consequences. As an employee it is my responsibility to get to work on time, finish breaks on time etc. An employer has to have rules and procedures otherwise chaos looms.
    Many years ago I received a verbal warning for time keeping (strictly speaking not my fault but the fault of public transport). My solution was to get up earlier and get an earlier bus.
    So I was at work a lot earlier than I needed to be but I never needed to worry about warnings again.
    Its not rocket science.
  • eamon wrote: »
    A minute or two late can appear so small and insignificant. But as other have stated you need to upscale it to see all the consequences. As an employee it is my responsibility to get to work on time, finish breaks on time etc. An employer has to have rules and procedures otherwise chaos looms.
    Many years ago I received a verbal warning for time keeping (strictly speaking not my fault but the fault of public transport). My solution was to get up earlier and get an earlier bus.
    So I was at work a lot earlier than I needed to be but I never needed to worry about warnings again.
    Its not rocket science.

    Strictly speaking it was your fault in relying on public transport and thus as you realised you could not do this and got the earlier bus

    Will
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  • gozaimasu
    gozaimasu Posts: 860 Forumite
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    edited 5 December 2009 at 2:54PM
    I don't like the nitpicking either. I agree that punctuality is very important and the employer is paying for you to be there, so yes you should be on time.

    However, what about all the times employees stay late for 1-2mins at the end of every day? Surely this should cancel out with any times that breaks run over or they are late in the mornings. Usually people stay late after the end of the day 5-10mins, and can't claim any overtime for this, so essentially the employer is stealing time they will never get back.

    There are usually 4 stages to a disciplinary procedure (verbal warning, 1st written warning, final written warning, dismissal) and it's unlikely that he will be sacked just for this. It's difficult not to be worried, but I'm sure it'll be fine if he is truly apologetic and makes an effort to do whatever it is they are going to tell him to do at the disciplinary interview.
    Your wrong Emily, 1/2 minutes a day is 200-400 minutes a year which is what 3 and a bit to nearly 7 hours a year out of business time....how would u feel if the company stung you for 3-7 hours...would you put up with it? I doubt it

    Will
  • 27col
    27col Posts: 6,554 Forumite
    edited 6 January 2010 at 5:41PM
    In my experience, people will always get away with what they are allowed to get away with. Ergo, employers will clamp down on new workers just in order to make sure that they do not get into bad habits. I think that this is entirely reasonable. All too soon 2 minutes will become 5 minutes if not stopped. Then the whole financial implications will roll out as has been illustrated in some of these posts. In any event, if you can get back 2 minutes late then why can you not get back on time. It is just a question of getting into the right mind set. If you are generally on time then it would be reasonable for the occasional lapse to be ignored, but if you make a habit of it then that is just taking the p***.
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  • ClootiesMum
    ClootiesMum Posts: 1,606 Forumite
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    OP mentions in post 30 about "his stats" - this would lead me to think that her partner is in a call centre. If this is the case then he may well come back at the same time as the other colleagues but might not log in at the same time as them.

    If he's late in signing on then this would record the lateness of even 30 seconds. It might be that OP partner has to check his logging on procedure rather than timing coming back from breaks? Although I don't work in a call centre now the building I work in still houses one & I hear similar conversations on an almost daily basis

    Just a thought....
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