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Question regarding school day out.
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This Thurs is challenge day, not sure what they'll get up to, but one has to go in old clothes while the other goes in his enrichment kit.
What the bleep is an 'enrichment kit'? Is that a fancy new term for a PE kit?**Thanks to everyone on here for hints, tips and advice!**:D
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Who said viable? If we stuck to realism this thread would have died after about two posts.
The £120 for the trip to the cheese eating surrender monkeys would pay for 8 kids to go on this, so if the OP wants to include all kids there's an answer.It's taken me years of experience to get this cynical0 -
My son got rewarded as part of the G&T programme. A large company with their HQ nearby paid for a trip to Northampton Saints Rugby Ground. Maybe that kind of thing would have been a better comprimise?0
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Crikey all these make me realise just how sh*t DS's school really was - a trip to the Rugby for G&T! Crikey all my son got was 3 days extra in school summer hols of year7 - ( they did go to The Deep, but we had to pay and had a lecturer from Leeds Uni do a chemistry demo - the highlight was turning off teh school fire alarms as otherwise they would have all gone off!) and extra lessons before every exam to maximise grades!
For special needs children however at his old school it was a different kettle of fish - they have special rooms with PS3's etc and get taken on bike trips.
At the certificate presentation I mentioned earlier they invite all prize winners to refreshements - when I queried this they said oh that is all collecting a certificate - they haven't got a prize, they have a certificate from the examining board!0 -
I think school should contribute to cost of event. Its a treat..a reward for good behaviour. If parents cant afford to send their child then they are missing out and its not fair.I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over and through me. When it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
When the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.0 -
Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »What has the world come to when this can't be labelled as a treat? Do you realise how ungrateful that sounds?
Fundamentally I don't see that a treat is necessarily from the person that pays for it, so wouldn't have an issue with the school's wording.
Time is the most scarce, valuable resource that anybody can give, not money.
The school are offering a fun, elite, supervised activity that the parents are paying for. One party offers the time, the other money; it's just basic division of labour.
wow.. this thread got out of control didnt it...
from what ive seen the OP isnt saying that the school arent great for offering some sort of reward for the good kids, she also didnt say that the teacher shouldnt have bothered, (and anyone with this attitude is frankly over doing the hard done by bit... yes the teachers work hard but so do some of the kids and if your going to reward them then it should be a reward for everyone who deserves it not just the families with spare cash)
what the OP was saying is if the school is offering a treat then it should have been something from them, you wouldnt say to a friend im taking you out for a treat to legoland and then tell them to pay for entrance, all meals and then drive you home!
the school could have treated the kids who deserve it in any number of ways, from giving them a lesson break to do something fun like play games while the others are working, taking them to the park, letting them come in thier own clothes etc... all these things are free and would have been appreiciated,
My DDs school has a golden book, one child from each class is chosen every friday (always the kids who have done the best piece of work, been the best behaved, deserve it in some other way etc) they get thier names called and to go up to the front in assembly for a round of applause and thier name goes up on the school golden board for the week, the best kids also get golden time, which is half an hour of free play during lesson time each week, if anyone is naughty they take off 2 minutes a time,
Every child who has been in the golden book three times by the end of the year gets a special treat such as being taken to the zoo (paid for by the school) or a book token
Also, they get team points, you can get a TP for a good piece of work, being helpful etc
5 team points equals one merit certificate
and I dont know a single child who doesnt love a certificate!0 -
Kids get a bit more cynical as they get to about 10 years old. By then, if they have enough certificates to paper their bedroom walls, they are beginning to feel less excited by the regular ones, and if they don't have any, they pretty much reject the whole idea.
By the teens, a scrap of paper means nothing. Cold hard reality bites then - but, even so, packs of pencils or chocolate work for teenagers.
A secondary school teacher who provides treats early in the school year (and maintains the possibility of additional treats for good work/behaviour) still enjoys a lot more loyalty than the ones who scream and shout and tell teenagers that they are rubbish (or just the same as the ones who are currently trying to hospitalise one another on the grounds of which postcode they fall under).I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.Yup you are officially Rock n Roll0 -
Thirty years ago, my school sanctioned a treat as a reward for some of us at the request of a very dedicated teacher. He took us to see Roman Polanski's Macbeth at an independent cinema in the nearest big city. Furthermore, it was a night showing and we got back very, very late. How we loved that teacher for it. Guess what, our parents paid for it.
He also organised a trip down a working coal mine for us (where he was mistaken for a pupil!), again giving up his own time to give us a fantastic experience. Oh, and at the end of our final term of secondary school, he also took us to the pub at lunchtime to say goodbye. Some of us weren't yet turned 18.I expect that nowadays there would be parents baying for his blood. :rolleyes:
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I see where the OP is coming from. This isn't a treat from the school, it's a treat from the parents. It's very kind of the teacher, but he's effectively spending the parents money. I assume the children know about the trip, threfore, it'd be a very cold hearted (or guilt ridden) parent who would not let the child go. There must have been cheaper and better ways o doin his. Maybe a meeting with the parents first to get them on side and get suitable ideas?
However, as the deed is done, might it be worth letting them go, show appreciation for the teacher and offer to be involved next time? That'd give you a chance to change things. Everyone's happy.0
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