Question regarding school day out.

bestpud

Debt_Free_Chick wrote: »

I think that's the point.

From what we know, it doesn't seem as though this is being handed out within the State education system.

It's "outwith" the system, therefore self-financing for those that can afford it. It's no different to the optional ski-ing holiday. Those kids with parents who can afford it get to go.

Yes, but it is being 'offered' through the school, as a treat from the school, and for behaviour within the school.

Therefore, each child who achieves that reward should be able to participate in it, or it becomes a jolly for the well off, and not a reward for good behaviour in school.

They have gone to the same effort and they deserve to be rewarded in the same way.

Can you not see the difference?

Rewards should be closely linked to the behaviour - that is what makes them work!

If the teacher just wanted to take them on a jolly then he should not have linked it to behaviour!

tandraig

well said best pud!

aliasojo

What would people's perceptions of this situation be, if the situation was the same but the people involved were different?

I have an uncomfortable sense of 'support the school' no matter what in this thread.

I think it's admirable that the school have even thought about this and I also applaud the teacher who is giving up free time to facilitate the day, but I do think that calling this a treat or reward for hard work is pushing it. I understand school budgets are usually pushed to the limits and I'm not suggesting they should spend precious funds on something like this but nor should they class this as a treat or a reward. A treat or reward should not be something the recipient has to pay for.

So, it's a lovely thought but could have been dealt with in a better way, imo. I think it would have been more honest to say something like ' we think you've done wonderfully well and we're thinking of organising a day out to celebrate, the costs will be xxx, hope you're able to come'.

Gingham_Ribbon

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

When asked what she was doing to recognise the extraordinary efforts and achievements these kids had done (and in dealing with threats, intimidation, violence and all the usual things directed at academic kids stuck in a bear pit), her answer was;

ALL our kids are great. To make something out of these privileged (what? at this school?) children would be unfair on the others, as they found this easy when others have to work at it.

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

There's another story for the NAGC. Sad to say this is not uncommon.

Gingham_Ribbon

aliasojo wrote: »

What would people's perceptions of this situation be, if the situation was the same but the people involved were different?

I have an uncomfortable sense of 'support the school' no matter what in this thread.
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I don't believe in supporting the school no matter what. I believe in schools and families supporting each other when things are going well and challenging within reason when things are not going well.

I also think though that this is probably not a 'school' thing at all. Just a nice teacher trying to do a nice thing.

aliasojo

Gingham_Ribbon wrote: »

I also think though that this is probably not a 'school' thing at all. Just a nice teacher trying to do a nice thing.

Perhaps so Gingham but the fact remains a treat by definition is something nice, given without cost to the recipient. As I said, kudos to the teacher but still could have been dealt with better, imo.

domestic_goddess

The school have organised a group activity for all of the kids to get together outside of school time to have some fun with their friends.

I really don't see a problem if you can afford it... Just let them go and enjoy themselves.

seven-day-weekend

How about some thanks for the dedicated teacher giving up his free time to go? He won't be getting paid for it.

aliasojo

C'mon 7 day......everyone has said it's very good of the teacher to do this and recognises that he's given up his free time.

Lunar_Eclipse

mspig wrote: »

Thanks for all your replies.

I am greatful that the school have organised such a day out, but i wasen't happy that school labelled it as a treat from the school when its the parents who are paying for it.

Glad to see that i'm not the only one who disagrees with the school labelling it as a treat.

What has the world come to when this can't be labelled as a treat? Do you realise how ungrateful that sounds?

Fundamentally I don't see that a treat is necessarily from the person that pays for it, so wouldn't have an issue with the school's wording.

Time is the most scarce, valuable resource that anybody can give, not money.

The school are offering a fun, elite, supervised activity that the parents are paying for. One party offers the time, the other money; it's just basic division of labour.