New 4 Page DLA Renewal Form( DLA580)

tonycarew

woodbine wrote: »

If the new form is adopted nationwide I suspect it can only be a good thing after all if you just sign a form to say no change then the DM will be going against the last decision if he changes the award.Its worth reading what "rightsnet"has to say on the subject.

Could you provide a link to the rightsnet article.I've had a look on the site but couldn't find anything.Thanks in advance

Tony.

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tonycarew wrote: »

Could you provide a link to the rightsnet article.I've had a look on the site but couldn't find anything.Thanks in advance

Tony.

heres the link
http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=7300&mesg_id=7300&page==

plus an update the new 4 page dla580 forms are being trialled in the following areas:greater manchester,east lancs and north east.

purplecatlover

this was mentioned int he benefits and work newsletter this week, with a warning to be wary of not providing any evidence about your needs especially if you are reporting changes in your condition (even if they are for the worse).

seven-day-weekend

What I am going to say will probably be unpopular and I will say right now that I haven't had to fill in a DLA form for myself - only helped my son's girlfriend with hers. (She got LRM, LRC).

BUT I personally would feel a lot more secure in getting the correct decision if I had to write in detail about how much help I needed, because I could explain it properly. If I just signed a form saying 'no change', they might call me for more medicals than usual and then overturn their decision.

What is the problem with filling the forms in? I don't understand.

(Don't want to be argumentative here - just trying to understand).

I suppose if someone has a condition that never changes this new form is fine...but most conditions fluctuate and therefore can't be 'the same as last time'. My son's girlfriend, in fact, has a lifelong condition, but based on experience of the condition, she will find better coping mechanisms as she gets older, and therefore will perhaps not need the amount of care and the problms with mobility that she has now.

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seven-day-weekend wrote: »

What I am going to say will probably be unpopular and I will say right now that I haven't had to fill in a DLA form for myself - only helped my son's girlfriend with hers. (She got LRM, LRC).

BUT I personally would feel a lot more secure in getting the correct decision if I had to write in detail about how much help I needed, because I could explain it properly. If I just signed a form saying 'no change', they might call me for more medicals than usual and then overturn their decision.

What is the problem with filling the forms in? I don't understand.

(Don't want to be argumentative here - just trying to understand).

I suppose if someone has a condition that never changes this new form is fine...but most conditions fluctuate and therefore can't be 'the same as last time'. My son's girlfriend, in fact, has a lifelong condition, but based on experience of the condition, she will find better coping mechanisms as she gets older, and therefore will perhaps not need the amount of care and the problms with mobility that she has now.

I totally agree,seems that many welfare advisors do as well from what i`m reading,there also appears to be some concern that this new form will encourage fraud.

naf123

i think its more for those properly disabled like blind or deaf people whose condition will never even change slightly.

Most conditions change the whole time and the DLA needs to know all the time....annoying!

roo22

i had to appeal my daughters claim last year after loosing it completely, (we won), it was ex. stressful before hand but once in the room with the panel i realised it was actually much easier to show the truth of our circumstances in person than it was in the form. they should scrap the forms and just have a panel, much quicker and reliable! as far as the car call motorbility and let them know whats happening, they are independant and can give you options and useful, freindly advice; at least that was the case for me, very helpful. good luck

bored_at_home

i cant understand peoples reluctance with the forms either, or how they can take them to an advisor to get thm filled in by someone whos never met them before.
surely this is then just a paper exercise to get as much benefit as possible and not to answer questions honestly.
iv always filled mine in myself and on two occasions applied for reconsideration as the award wasnt what i felt i deserved, having the decision changed in my favour both times.

seven-day-weekend

I agree boredathome, it surely isn't difficult to just write the truth about your condition, what you can do, how much help you need and how often. You know better than anyone else.

I do realise however, from when my son and I were helping my son's girlfriend to fill it in, she sometimes didn't understand the questions or answer them properly. For example, there was one question that asked something like what help she needed in everyday life (she has Aspergers' Syndrome), and she had just put 'I need someone to help me understand'. Now although this is true it doesn't actually explain very much! My son (who also has AS but doesn't claim anything) and myself helped her to expand her answer so that it explained to the decision maker what sort of things she didn't understand, why it was difficult for her, what help she needed to enable her to understand, and what type of professional help would give it to her. (She was awarded LRM,LRC, which she was delighted with).

All this was is perfectly true, as her answer was, but was much more informative than her answer and gives the decision maker something to work on.

So I can understand why some people may feel they need help with the forms. What I don't understand is why some people object to filling them in.

Trialia

What's wrong with the long forms? They're exhausting, that's what. And it's all about what you can't do, which when there's as much as there is with me, for example, is really depressing, which is a very bad thing in my condition. I have to go into minute detail with everything because if I don't, they write me off as not in need of help. Last time I had to fill them out I had someone from the Pension Service help me and it took two of us three hours without a break...