Mega strong weed killer?

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  • keith969
    keith969 Posts: 1,575 Forumite
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    Sodium Chlorate was banned in the EU in 2009, that's why you can't find it, mixed with sugar it can be a hazzard.

    Sodium Chlorate is a very effective weedkiller - it basically kills everything. And its dirt cheap.

    Now of course this is not music to the ears of the companies selling Roundup etc. so they lobbied the EU to have it banned due to some 'terrorist risk'. Except that its never been used by terrorists and, as sold, is mixed with a fire retardant that makes it perfectly safe.

    So please write to your MP and ask, as a gardener, for the ban to be dropped. It makes no sense other than to big agribusiness companies.
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  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 11,908 Forumite
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    It may have been effective but, as pointed out, it's illegal to store or use.

    It also so affected the soil for 6 months that nothing could be grown in for that length of time; that gives you some idea of its toxicity.
  • Darkstar
    Darkstar Posts: 358 Forumite
    I bought a large tub a few years back and it has kept my drive weed free since. Tried to get some more recently and could not find any and now I know why. The alternatives are so expensive :(. Wish I had bought a couple of tubs when I had the chance.

    Dark in here, is't it...
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  • neil1965
    neil1965 Posts: 43 Forumite
    Saw one of the above posts saying that over strength glyphosate is not effective as a weedkiller. Probably very true, from what i understand glyphosate and many other herbicides contain wetting agents (cationic surfactants) These help the active ingredient through the leaf/ stem and into the plants circulatory system. If an over strenth chemical is used the plant will quickly die off , but because of the speed of the kill the active ingredient will not have time to have been drawn to the roots for a complete kill So in a short time the plant will burst into life again. Best to use herbicides at the recommended rate. better for the environment and your pocket!

    Not an expert though and would welcome any corrections to the above.
  • Hi all

    I'm head greenkeeper at a golf course. Products containing glyphosphate kill all weeds. Doesn't matter whether it's Roundup, Resolva Weed or B&Q own brand, it's the active ingredient that is the important thing. Do on a dry day when rain is not imminent. Don't spray weeds on the garden though - it's not selective and will kill the grass too!

    For garden weeds, you'll need a selective weedkiller. If clover is a problem, anything containing mecoprop will do. Just check the label (like you would if you were buying a meddecine) if in doubt.
  • ben.allen9 wrote: »
    Hi all

    I'm head greenkeeper at a golf course. Products containing glyphosphate kill all weeds. Doesn't matter whether it's Roundup, Resolva Weed or B&Q own brand, it's the active ingredient that is the important thing. Do on a dry day when rain is not imminent. Don't spray weeds on the garden though - it's not selective and will kill the grass too!


    That confirms my experiences.

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  • oldhenry
    oldhenry Posts: 17 Forumite
    Yes, no doubt resolva, et al, kills weeds but at a great cost!. That s why Sodium Chlorate was banned, not to save the whales or green finches but to make money , just like all the green clap-trap you will hear, an dpay for.
    You can get creosote , BTW, from farm stores, and that does kill mares tail ,as it has been done.
    I bet the french farmers still get sodium chlorate, they totally ignore all EU directives, as they should of course, as the EU was designed to control the Anglo Saxons - not the Latins.
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