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Police Parking Ticket Doesn't Seem Fair

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  • king100
    king100 Posts: 1,565 Forumite
    that is some of the worst parking i have seen.
    I all have learnt is from others on many sites.
    Seek legal help if unsure.
    Dont pay Private Parking tickets - they are mere invoices.

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  • Coblcris
    Coblcris Posts: 1,862 Forumite
    When the Highway code says you MUST NOT.... it's because there is a specific law that says you musn't, and you comnmit an offence if you ignore it. The specific rule in the Highway Code that the OP has ignored/broken is Rule 243, that states, amongst others, that you MUST NOT stop or park within 10 metres of a road junction.

    Correct, it is about specific law. The Highway Code is not the law nor is it a statement of the law.

    I good example is the "must not stop or park within 10 metres of a road junction".
    By all means look for the legislation (law) which creates this constraint.
    You will not find it. Nor was the police PCN issued for 'parking within 10 metres of a road junction', it could not have been as there is no such offence in law.

    Yet the Highway Code says MUST NOT - clearly a misstatement of the law.
    There are others.

    The police PCN does look valid to me. I would pay it.
  • DaveF327
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    edited 20 November 2009 at 12:09PM
    I'm afraid I have to agree with most posters on here.

    Your car was causing an obstruction to vision, even if not to the width of the carriageway. What you're forgetting is, while you cannot see a significant problem in your photographs with those vehicles, that doesn't mean there wasn't a problem earlier when a large lorry or bus had to squeeze by to turn right, effectively making the left lane impassable to people turning left. Drivers of low profile cars would have their vision along the dual carriageway significantly restricted until the last moment, therefore losing progress unnecessarily.

    Let's look at another "knock on effect" you may be unaware of. If we assume that it's ok to plonk your car wherever there's no paint on the road, what's to stop someone parking immediately opposite you on the left? Although that obstruction would take the co-operation of many transgressors, the whole chain reaction of events would start with just one person. Rules are there to be obeyed. Just think, if everyone drove and parked exactly to the highway code and kept away from junctions, traffic wardens and police would have a very easy life and a collective fortune would be saved by the public in fines and penalties.

    I sympathise with you regarding the lack of legitimate parking and the apparent "anti-student vendetta" but this doesn't mean you can make up your own rules. You simply have to look harder for a proper parking spot and allow a longer journey time to do so.

    Of course, you're within your right to request a court hearing and hire the best lawyers in the world to argue your opinion of obstruction, but as section 38(7) of the Road Traffic Act states: "A failure on the part of a person to observe a provision of the Highway Code shall not of itself render that person liable to criminal proceedings of any kind but any such failure may in any proceedings (whether civil or criminal,...) be relied upon by any party to the proceedings as tending to establish or negative any liability which is in question in those proceedings.". Once the police throw rule 243 of the code at you, I know exactly what the magistrate will say.

    I agree that there are tighter and smaller places being obstructed by cars and vans, but I'm glad the police are finally making a stand against obstructive parking and they all have to start somewhere. I now call on Greater Manchester Police to follow this example and start patrolling the streets where I live and sort out the numpties who park right on the corner of narrow streets causing severe problems for anyone trying to negotiate the turn safely.
  • JaspaC wrote: »
    In addition my car wing mirror nearest the road had been folded around, even though its not really designed to. It was folded the opposite way to oncoming traffic and this has never been done before at this place. I suspect it may have been the police officer but I have no evidence.

    Do you mean here that the wing mirror was folding in towards the car? Because if so, perhaps the police were trying to do you a favour because of your awful parking and suspected that it might get knocked by other cars? If you mean it was folded backwards, then that was probably another car clipping you. Either way, you can't complain about that.
  • photome
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    Dont hold your breath for replies from the OP as his first post was also ticket related and didnt reply to that one

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1993657&highlight=

    FWIW I think it was a stupid place to park
  • shellsuit
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    If I saw a car in a position like where you left yours, I'd assume that it had been taken for a joyride and dumped there.

    It's an awful place to park, not to mention dangerous too.

    I can't quite believe you don't see what the problem is.
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  • WHF?:confused:

    If the OP can't see a problem in what he's done wrong he shouldn't have a driving licence.

    IMO he's got away lightly with a £30 ticket.

    As already said, he's very luck not to be facing a further £150 recovery charge.

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  • Paradigm
    Paradigm Posts: 3,663 Forumite
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    Police issued "tickets" are not like the councils... don't pay & a trip to the magistrates court follows! Not recommended. There is no appeal procedure as such.

    For the sake of £30 I wouldn't fancy taking the Police on in court ;)
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  • Well that gave me a chuckle on a otherwise dull Friday.

    Terrible bit of "parking"
  • Judging by the OPs photobucket account, he/she seems to be a big fan of funfairs, travelling sites, mobile homes and old vans.

    Epic fail on the parking.
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