Are Poles returning?

beccad

The noisy Poles lot have moved out next door, which is great news. A very quiet Korean-looking family have moved in.

StevieJ

Peelerfart wrote: »

During WW2 the Poles did charge German Pzkw's with cavalry.

How much bottle would that take ?

They also had an uprising when the Russians were circling Warsaw, the Russians were aware but allowed the Germans to butcher the Poles, presumably to get rid of the troublemakers :eek:

ess0two

carolt wrote: »

Are you talking about the second world war? I think they'd stopped using cavalry, you know, ess0two, they used tanks and things.

More, Private Wageslave,atenshun

StevieJ

BTW Lipstick on your collar the Dennis Potter series is on Yesterday at this time all week, it was Ewan Mcgregors debut and it is bizzare but brilliant, definately worth a look.

Degenerate

StevieJ wrote: »

According to my Polish friend they did not expect (or deserve) to be abandoned by the west and left to the mercy of the Russians :eek: BTW what has an agreement between Russia and Germany got to do with it

Your Polish friend is regurgitating the popular myth of "Western Betrayal" that was actually put about by the communists in order to sow confusion and discord amongst those opponents of the regime who looked to the west.

It's utter cobblers because by the time the last remnants of the Nazi regime were defeated, Soviet domination of Eastern Europe was already a fait accompli, and the Western allies were in no position to do anything about it. It's not like the west didn't protest either, I seem to recall this whole "Cold War" thing where we sat pointing nukes at each other for forty years.

wageslave

ess0two wrote: »

More, Private Wageslave,atenshun

Are you naturally this obnoxious or are you making a special effort all for little old me?

ess0two

Yeah its one of my endearing qualities,much like yourself:beer:

wageslave

ess0two wrote: »

Yeah its one of my endearing qualities,much like yourself:beer:

Consider me suitably endeared.

Actually, in the interests of honesty disregard that last remark. Even typing it gave me the shivers.

And not in a good way:cool:

StevieJ

Degenerate wrote: »

Your Polish friend is regurgitating the popular myth of "Western Betrayal" that was actually put about by the communists in order to sow confusion and discord amongst those opponents of the regime who looked to the west.

It's utter cobblers because by the time the last remnants of the Nazi regime were defeated, Soviet domination of Eastern Europe was already a fait accompli, and the Western allies were in no position to do anything about it. It's not like the west didn't protest either, I seem to recall this whole "Cold War" thing where we sat pointing nukes at each other for forty years.

More Soviet propaganda

In fact, Great Britain and France assisted the Nazis and Soviets in the September 1939 slaughter of Poland by successfully sabotaging her efforts to defend herself (General Mobilization). One political commentator summarized this "war": Having friends like Britain and France that country (Poland) is in no need for enemies, really.

The Second World War ended officially on May 9, 1945. NOT FOR EVERYONE!
From 1943 in Teheran, the so-called Western Democracies worked tirelessly and secretly with their ally - the Soviets, on the "new world order". In exchange for Soviet cannon fodder, Great Britain and the United States of America cooperated eagerly and cynically in enslaving their former, not needed anymore, ally - Poland, and the rest of Central Europe by the Soviets.
The Poles... the Hungarians... the Rumanians... the Slovaks... the Croatians... the Serbs... the Slovenians... the Bulgarians... the Estonians... the Latvians... the Belorussians... the Lithuanians... the Ukrainians... and others - for many nations the Second World War did not end on May 9, 1945!
For almost half a century, they fought for their Freedom against one, common enemy - Soviet Russia. Soviet Russia's allies - Great Britain and the United States of America - countries, which claimed friendship with Poland before and during the war, lost their lustre in the eyes of many - if they ever had it before to begin with.

http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/poland_ww2_intro.html

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/wwii/tehran.asp

(a) Declaration of the Three Powers, December 1, 1943

We the President of the United States, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, and the Premier of the Soviet Union, have met these four days past, in this, the Capital of our Ally, Iran, and have shaped and confirmed our common policy.

richardlionheart

Gordon Brown has said the recent polls haven't worried him at all.
He stated, "They're doing a lovely job on my kitchen."