What do you think of my kitchen design?

edgex

jonnywells wrote: »

The corner door to the right is a outside door and the 1 on the wall where the rad is goes into the dinning room

& where does the opposite corner door go to, the one to the right of the sink?
would you consider knocking through into the dining room, & putting a unit with worktop along where the wall was, losing the radiator & door?

jonnywells

Into the hallway. I had toyed with the idea once knocking the wall out but decided it would prob cost to much.

majjie

jonnywells wrote: »

Majjie I take it you do this for a living what software do you use?
Tbh we don't really sit to much in the kitchen, maybe for breakfast but that's it.

I have just about got your idea info the ikea thing. Just out of interest how mush would it cost to have that design done?(the first 1) I live in leicester so not far away from you.Pm me if possible

You're welcome to a copy of what I've done Jon, I was just doing it for fun (yes, I know how sad that sounds! ) ... although I can see from your second lot of pictures that I don't have the right measurements! I'll pm you.

I use Compusoft Winner software - it's good - but it's pricey. You wouldn't use it unless you designed kitchens for a living.

Majjie

andrew-b

Now we know the doors i don't think there is much point you blocking off/removing the dining room door - the space is already dead space because of the external door.

However is it possible the door to the hall could be moved down to the other end of the wall it's on (i.e.the corner near the fridge/freezer in the latest plans)..obviously i've no idea what's the other side of the wall or if it's a supporting wall (will be pricier if supporting) ...but if you could do this then you could use all 3 sides of the kitchen at the window end..other end could then be the breakfast area (and cat area!). Then you have a long run of wall from the window to the repositioned door ....worktop with more units under where the door was (would recommend you get some pan drawers in - very useful not just for pans!) - or just a worktop to form a breakfast bar instead - and maybe wall units above ..then eye-level oven tower - then american fridge/freezer (perhaps larder unit in between as oven next to fridge not too great)..pretty much maintains your kitchen "triangle" and brings everything together rather than being disjointed into the two parts we currently have. Also makes water supply to fridge/freezer easy - no need to go under floor. Of course this all depends on repositioning that door and your probably going to tell me it's not possible at all - but if it is i think it would make the room work alot better.

majjie

I don't entirely agree with andrew-b - about the advantages of moving the door - but, like I said ... 5 designers ... 5 different plans

In answer to a pm from jonny ... you could still have the seating area using standard Axiom or Duropal worktop ... you'd just use the 900 wide breakfast bar worktop and bevel the corners:



Of course, it might not be cost effective, if you have to buy a 4.1m length ... but you can still use the leftover piece for ordinary depth worktop - just cut it down to size.

andrew-b

majjie wrote: »

I don't entirely agree with andrew-b - about the advantages of moving the door - but, like I said ... 5 designers ... 5 different plans

..didn't expect anyone/everyone to and expect it not to be possible anyway and besides you've got more experience than me but my aim was more to get them thinking out the box..rather than set on what's already there. We all have different ideas what we want from a kitchen..like i'd never have an american freezer and would have eye-level oven if i could (mainly because id find it easier to use as doesn't require bending down). I don't dislike majjies plan ..actually pretty good!

What's already there is often the best design anyway! I went round in circles for weeks on designs for our kitchen and ended up on a design not far from the original kitchen in the first place - though i now see various ways it could be improved! But i didn't have majjie's software to help (and was before i discovered Google Sketchup!)

Either way think about how your likely to use it..is someone going to be cooking whilst someone else is unloading the dishwasher for example (majjie's last plan looks good on paper but fails in that scenario as oven door and dishwasher door will collide so can't be opened at same time - no plan is ever perfect ).

majjie

andrew-b wrote: »

... my aim was more to get them thinking out the box..rather than set on what's already there.

... I went round in circles for weeks on designs for our kitchen and ended up on a design not far from the original kitchen in the first place - though i now see various ways it could be improved! But i didn't have majjie's software to help (and was before i discovered Google Sketchup!)

I'm all for thinking outside the box ... but not necessarily involving building work ... and I often go round in circles with my kitchen plans. The software doesn't help with an imaginative plan ... it just helps to visualise the plan, once you've come up with it.

I very often print out the plan and play around in pencil, for difficult designs (that could be a sign of my age, though ... I started off doing all my kitchen plans by hand).

As for the oven and dishwasher - I did point out that it was too cramped for two people to work there - and one person couldn't use both at once .

edgex

andrew-b wrote: »

Now we know the doors i don't think there is much point you blocking off/removing the dining room door - the space is already dead space because of the external door.

However is it possible the door to the hall could be moved down to the other end of the wall it's on (i.e.the corner near the fridge/freezer in the latest plans)..obviously i've no idea what's the other side of the wall or if it's a supporting wall (will be pricier if supporting) ...but if you could do this then you could use all 3 sides of the kitchen at the window end..other end could then be the breakfast area (and cat area!). Then you have a long run of wall from the window to the repositioned door ....worktop with more units under where the door was (would recommend you get some pan drawers in - very useful not just for pans!) - or just a worktop to form a breakfast bar instead - and maybe wall units above ..then eye-level oven tower - then american fridge/freezer (perhaps larder unit in between as oven next to fridge not too great)..pretty much maintains your kitchen "triangle" and brings everything together rather than being disjointed into the two parts we currently have. Also makes water supply to fridge/freezer easy - no need to go under floor. Of course this all depends on repositioning that door and your probably going to tell me it's not possible at all - but if it is i think it would make the room work alot better.

strangely enough, thats what i was thinking :cool:

at the moment, with doors at both ends of the room, the kitchen is also a corridor.
if the hall door could be moved along the wall, to the end corner, opposite the external door, it then allows a 'U' shaped kitchen based around the window end of the room, & the radiator end becomes the corridor part.
it also means youve then got access from the hall to the external door without having to go through the kitchen.

andrew-b

edgex wrote: »

it also means youve then got access from the hall to the external door without having to go through the kitchen.

yep..it's actually somewhat similar to our own kitchen ..external door and entrance to kitchen at one end together with another door to a larder...means you can walk through kitchen without getting in the way of someone cooking/washing up etc. Kids/animals don't get under feet of the cook and so on. The whole plan may fall down though if there's a staircase the other side of the wall or a room other than the hall! Either way i think it's always worth looking at how the kitchen fits in with the rest of the house rather than considering it just on it's own.

jonnywells

There is nothing on the other side of the wall (in the hallway) but i think its going to start pushing my bugdet if i start moving doors etc.

I have moved the dishwasher to the end of the units now near the door which will free up some space around the oven area.

I think thanks to the brill ppl on this forum im getting close to the finish, just going to sort the appliances now

Looking at the following

Zanussi Pyrolytic oven (ZYB594X) @ £454.97
Zanussi Glass gas hob (ZGG642CN) @ £139.97
Samsung American fridge (RSG5DUMH) @ £909.00

Still working on the dishwasher but will prob be a bosch with a Vario Drawer(dont like cutlery baskets!)@ around £550
Extracter not really looked at yet