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  • Marty_J
    Marty_J Posts: 6,594 Forumite
    asininity wrote: »
    dic⋅ta⋅tor⋅ship

    speaker.gif /dɪkˈteɪthinsp.pngtərˌʃɪp, ˈdɪkthinsp.pngteɪ-/ dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif Show Spelled Pronunciation [dik-tey-ter-ship, dik-tey-] Show I–noun 1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator. 2. absolute, imperious, or overbearing power or control. 3. the office or position held by a dictator.
    2 sounds like apple to me.

    Sorry, it's still not a dictatorship. That's just how companies work. Whenever you release your own line of computers, or write your own operating system, you can do whatever you want with them, and I'll be the first to support your right to do so.
    If it aint broke dont fix it???

    I'm glad there are others who think differently, otherwise we'd all still be banging rocks together.
    I love playground arguments:rolleyes:, so no it isnt.

    Oh yes it is!
    I tend to think if it was a service pack m$ might just have named it vista sp3???? Just a guess. I'm pretty sure it says windows 7 though.

    And miss an opportunity to get rid of the much-maligned Vista brand?

    Windows 7 is a PR exercise first, and an OS update second.
    Seriously though we both know that linux blows osx (which is just bsd with eyecandy) and windows out the water.

    Yes, it certainly blows in comparison.
    I dont think thats particularly hard but I'll give you a clue: read your posts.

    If you're talking about support for installing Windows, I fail to see what's so telling about it. Lots of people need to use Windows for various reasons, and Apple realise that.

    They're certainly under no illusions as to the ubiquitousness of Windows.
    That makes it true then, glad we cleared that up. I didn't know pictures of leopards make better OSs:rolleyes:

    It's a joke; my little attempt to lighten the mood. The Onion is a satirical news website where you can read such stories as:

    Apple Hard At Work Making iPhone Obsolete
    Apple Unveils New Product-Unveiling Product
    Date Of Apple Backlash Set For March 21, 2008
    Apple Claims New iPhone Only Visible To Most Loyal Of Customers
    The New iMac
    Apple Employee Fired For Thinking Different

    and the classic:

    Apple Introduces Revolutionary New Laptop With No Keyboard
    Leopard wrote: »

    So, then, in the long tradition of this sub-forum, it becomes playtime in the kindergarten for Marty J and asininity on the tail of the thread.

    Hey, when this is your view out the window, you take all the conversation you can get!
    Building hackintoshes is a grey area indeed. but any dual core laptop will run osx as native if you know how to instal a legaly bought copy of the os.

    And on that topic, a judge in the US just ruled in Apple's favour in the Psystar case.
  • Leopard
    Leopard Posts: 1,786 Forumite
    edited 16 November 2009 at 7:24PM
    Marty_J wrote: »

    Hey, when this is your view out the window, you take all the conversation you can get!

    Well, that's what you get for marrying Daisy Duke :smileyhea . Watch out for Boss Hog. :D



    Gets you thinking, though.

    I mean, if they changed the name from "LongWait" to "Viagra" to "Windows 7" in the hope of making everyone forget that the first two ever existed (or, in the case of the first one, never finally did), maybe they should change the name of the company itself to "Onion"?

    Or, maybe, "Cabbage"? "Cauliflower"? "Carrot", even. ("Spinach"?)

    But although a vegetable might be something with which its users would instinctively and subconsciously identify, as they shell out yet more money in forlorn pursuit of something that actually works, if Microsoft want to try and wrest back some market share from Apple they'd probably want to do their usual stealing-of-ideas thing and pick a fruit.

    "Fig", perhaps?

    "Lemon"?

    "Pumpkin" might induce a Pavlovian response among those who like bloatware.

    "Pear" would be good, too. (As in "F***; the bloody thing's all gone Pear-shaped again! :mad: ")

    They could then try to make people forget the Zune ever existed, by glueing a Chinese Nokia to it and re-naming it the "Gooseberry".

    Oh yes! Food for serious thought to a corporate genius. http://edibleapple.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/steve-ballmer-picture-ces.jpg

    Don't laugh at banana republics. :rotfl:

    As a result of how you voted in the last three General Elections,
    you'd now be better off living in one.

  • Leopard
    Leopard Posts: 1,786 Forumite

    That's probably how they finally got it to work. :rolleyes:

    Don't laugh at banana republics. :rotfl:

    As a result of how you voted in the last three General Elections,
    you'd now be better off living in one.

  • asininity
    asininity Posts: 1,615 Forumite
    Marty_J wrote: »
    Sorry, it's still not a dictatorship. That's just how companies work. Whenever you release your own line of computers, or write your own operating system, you can do whatever you want with them, and I'll be the first to support your right to do so.

    Companies are dictatorships, you're naive to think otherwise.
    I'm glad there are others who think differently, otherwise we'd all still be banging rocks together.

    Thats debatable. But as anewhope posted it is natively supported so a moot point.
    And miss an opportunity to get rid of the much-maligned Vista brand?

    Windows 7 is a PR exercise first, and an OS update second.

    Sure vista didn't go very well, 7 however is very good. Service packs are updates and fixes, 7 is more than that. Yes its what vista should have been but mistakes were made.

    It must hurt you that 7 is very good I'm sure you'll get over it.
    Yes, it certainly blows in comparison.

    Really:rolleyes: such a silly thing to say about an OS that is clearly better, nevermind.
    If you're talking about support for installing Windows, I fail to see what's so telling about it. Lots of people need to use Windows for various reasons, and Apple realise that.

    They're certainly under no illusions as to the ubiquitousness of Windows.

    Glad to see your man enough to admit it. Apple cant do without windows.
  • Marty_J
    Marty_J Posts: 6,594 Forumite
    edited 17 November 2009 at 2:00AM
    asininity wrote: »
    Companies are dictatorships, you're naive to think otherwise.

    Companies have boards and shareholders and such; they're accountable.

    Dictatorships are not.
    Sure vista didn't go very well, 7 however is very good. Service packs are updates and fixes, 7 is more than that. Yes its what vista should have been but mistakes were made.

    Microsoft have long released major updates as service packs.
    It must hurt you that 7 is very good I'm sure you'll get over it.

    Perhaps you missed the bit where I said I have two computers here running it?
    Really:rolleyes: such a silly thing to say about an OS that is clearly better, nevermind.

    I guess that's why it's so popular.

    It must be the high cost of ownership that puts people off.

    They give it away for free, and they still can't get anyone to use it. :rotfl:
    Glad to see your man enough to admit it. Apple cant do without windows.

    I know, who would steal all their ideas?

    I'd be interested to know what percentage of Linux users do their best to make it look like Mac OS X or Windows.

    Still, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
    Photogenic
    Marty_J wrote: »

    And on that topic, a judge in the US just ruled in Apple's favour in the Psystar case.



    And if I ever feel like taking the ridiculous decision to sell a hackintosh I will pay heed to that.
    The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. Terry Pratchett


    http.thisisnotalink.cöm
  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
    Photogenic
    Marty_J wrote: »
    Companies have boards and shareholders and such; they're accountable.

    Dictatorships are not.



    Microsoft have long released major updates as service packs.



    Perhaps you missed the bit where I said I have two computers here running it?



    I guess that's why it's so popular.

    It must be the high cost of ownership that puts people off.

    They give it away for free, and they still can't get anyone to use it. :rotfl:



    I know, who would steal all their ideas?

    I'd be interested to know what percentage of Linux users do their best to make it look like Mac OS X or Windows.

    Still, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.


    I do think Linux Mint and Ubuntu for example ultimate do have mac style features like the dock, but then again tabbed browsing came from open source (firefox) and various features of windows, osx, linux, solaris, gnome, kde, xfce so both GUI and OS have some Xover.
    The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. Terry Pratchett


    http.thisisnotalink.cöm
  • Marty_J
    Marty_J Posts: 6,594 Forumite
    edited 17 November 2009 at 5:20PM
    I do think Linux Mint and Ubuntu for example ultimate do have mac style features like the dock, but then again tabbed browsing came from open source (firefox)

    The tab as a GUI element was actually concocted by IBM as part of their Common User Access standard.

    It was first introduced in a browser in the now defunct InternetWorks, released in 1994 by BookLink (who have since been acquired by AOL). Several other browsers followed before Firefox got in on the act, most notably Opera.

    Tabbed browsing came from those dictatorships Asininity is so fond of. ;)
    and various features of windows, osx, linux, solaris, gnome, kde, xfce so both GUI and OS have some Xover.

    That seems reasonable.
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