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is an apple macbook worth the extra
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STUFF POSTED BY frugalwannabe
Bit Rude.
This was his Opinion, pitying his Daughter because of his response is hardly fair is it?
My Two Pence:
If money is no object, get a Mac. It will be easier for her if all the schools are using them and generally they are very good machines.
My only gripe with Apple products are 'Fanboys' & price.
Whenever a debate like this arises, they appear in droves to convince you that spending the extra money is worth it and to bash windows in to the ground.
If the product is that good, it will sell itself.
I recently bought myself a laptop and considered a Mac for a brief while.
However I couldn't justify the extra money for a lower spec machine than I ended up buying.
Apple products aren't as perfect as some would lead you to believe http://appledefects.com/ and viruses do exist, most hackers don't bother as Window's is easier and has a wider audience.
michaelro,
I concede that I might have been somewhat forthright in replying to frugalwannabe but my grievance with the latter is that s/he presents his/her highly disputable personal opinions as bald, unequivocal facts – and does so, moreover, in ignorance of the actual circumstances. That practice is dangerous and misleading to the uninformed – not least to the OP, who is here in search of accurate answers.
In order to penetrate such a hide and register protest at such conduct to a degree that might actually get absorbed to an extent that could dissuade the practice, it is usually necessary to put it with a not inconsiderable degree of robustness.
I apologise sincerely if, in doing so, I offended any spectators with the directness that I applied to the task.
vyle,
The constructive thing to do about such an appalling rep is to report her remarkable and counter-productive ineptitude to Apple.
Apple would surely deal with her conduct uncompromisingly but can only do so if apprised of it.
Using the behaviour, away from Apple's scrutiny, of a rogue rep to denigrate Apple's hardware and software in pursuit of your own apparent agenda is not a helpful way to assist others.
You run, moreover, the risk of your own (frequently valid) arguments being undermined by the contoversial way you use to advance them
ifc321,
Right on! The bottom line – put pithily and compromisingly. :money:
randomtask,randomtask wrote: »
I find using spotlight's search to be an excellent app launcher for programs not kept in the dock - just type the name of the application (or the first few letters of it) and it finds it and you can quickly open it - very slick and convenient compared to hunting it down via a start menu or opening multiple directories. I wish Windows could implement something equally powerful and fast.
A faster method is to keep aliases of those applications on one's desktop.
That can be neatened up by putting them all inside a single folder.
And, to make the whole process even swifter and more convenient, one can then put such a folder in the Dock, whereupon it will display in a handy Stack or Grid when clicked.
Try it.
Don't laugh at banana republics. :rotfl:
As a result of how you voted in the last three General Elections,
you'd now be better off living in one.
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Dont read it then... simples.
Yes it's simple not to read it, but the point of this site is to GIVE ADVICE TO THE PERSON WHO STARTED THE THREAD.
The OP asked a perfectly reasonably question, and clearly wanted advice on two issues: whether it is worth "the extra" for a macbook (obviously subjective) and whether one is likely to last for 6 years. I and some others on this thread tried to address those questions in order to help the OP.
But as soon as I saw that the OP was asking for advice about buying a mac it was obvious that the thread would spiral off into a riddiculous squabble about things like the merits of a single-button mouse, "Fanbois" etc etc which are of no relevance to the OP's question (the daughter already having used - and liked - a macbook).
This is my gripe: that it becomes almost impossible for someone to ask for advice about macs without their thread being hijacked by a stupid PC v mac debate which (as I said above) hasn't changed in 20 years.0 -
Yes it's simple not to read it, but the point of this site is to GIVE ADVICE TO THE PERSON WHO STARTED THE THREAD.
The OP asked a perfectly reasonably question, and clearly wanted advice on two issues: whether it is worth "the extra" for a macbook (obviously subjective) and whether one is likely to last for 6 years. I and some others on this thread tried to address those questions in order to help the OP.
But as soon as I saw that the OP was asking for advice about buying a mac it was obvious that the thread would spiral off into a riddiculous squabble about things like the merits of a single-button mouse, "Fanbois" etc etc which are of no relevance to the OP's question (the daughter already having used - and liked - a macbook).
This is my gripe: that it becomes almost impossible for someone to ask for advice about macs without their thread being hijacked by a stupid PC v mac debate which (as I said above) hasn't changed in 20 years.
Unfotunately the a similar thing often happens when people ask about Windows PCs.
If the OP's daughter wants a Macbook and the OP is happy to spend the money I really don't see that there's anything to discuss other than which model and what the best price is.
I'm just surprised that all the potential schools he has chosen use Macs. To the best of my knowledge none of the schools around here do.It's my problem, it's my problem
If I feel the need to hide
And it's my problem if I have no friends
And feel I want to die0 -
BillScarab wrote: »Unfotunately the a similar thing often happens when people ask about Windows PCs.
You're right - both sides are guilty of it. And it isn't just here - it happens on every site on the net.0 -
And like I said, on the macbook I was using, icons would bounce but wouldn't load anything.
We sat there, clicking this icon and it would bounce for a few seconds, then stop.
me: that should have loaded, right?
colleague: i think so...
me: oh, it's stopped...
*waits. nothing*
me: i'll try again
*same thing happens*
colleague: maybe youve got to double click it while it's in the air...
*tries...nothing*
*reboots*
So you are honestly saying that something like this (and what I mean like this, is something has gone slightly wrong that requires a simple reboot, ooh let me think of a BSOD) has NEVER happened on another computer running a different operating system and it has always been perfect, and no customer of yours ever has ever had a problem with anything...0 -
BillScarab wrote: »
I'm just surprised that all the potential schools he has chosen use Macs. To the best of my knowledge none of the schools around here do.
BillScarab,
You might find this interesting. There's a tremendous and growing momentum behind it.
(Do you, perchance, live in Redmond?
)
Don't laugh at banana republics. :rotfl:
As a result of how you voted in the last three General Elections,
you'd now be better off living in one.
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vyle,
The constructive thing to do about such an appalling rep is to report her remarkable and counter-productive ineptitude to Apple.
Apple would surely deal with her conduct uncompromisingly but can only do so if apprised of it.
Using the behaviour, away from Apple's scrutiny, of a rogue rep to denigrate Apple's hardware and software in pursuit of your own apparent agenda is not a helpful way to assist others.
You run, moreover, the risk of your own (frequently valid) arguments being undermined by the contoversial way you use to advance them
No agenda. OP asked if macs are worth the extra money, I explained that in my experience, no, and explained (when asked) what I didn't like about them.
In reading the responses, it has appeared that the person from apple who trained me, and others, in how to use macs had neglected lots of important features.
Do I still feel macs are worth the extra money? No, just as I don't feel a sony vaio or a Dell are worth the extra money.So you are honestly saying that something like this (and what I mean like this, is something has gone slightly wrong that requires a simple reboot, ooh let me think of a BSOD) has NEVER happened on another computer running a different operating system and it has always been perfect, and no customer of yours ever has ever had a problem with anything...
Yes, it has, but as Apple's main marketing drive is "it just works" and how reliable and stable it is, it's more obvious when it doesn't work.
It's like, if a car's main marketing drive (excuse the pun) was its safety in a crash, it would be more damning if the particular car had a tendency to explode if nudged.0 -
Have to say win 7 is very good! This from a linux guy. Did a fresh install with my free upgrade took about the same time a an old ubuntu install light on resources and quick. It just works. And for the first time I'm using all m$ security due to the firewall being fine and M$ essentials, only thing Ive installed is winpatrol.
You'd have to be naive to expect anything else when the OP asked for opinions, some people give an opinion about it others dont agree and argue.
Now my opinion I've already given but I'll add if a school uses macs as standard they cant expect all there students to have them, specifically this is a price thing.
Oh and macs being able to run windows isn't a plus point for apple, its a plus point for microsofts large hardware support. The only plus point is that apple saw sense and started using intel.0 -
No agenda. OP asked if macs are worth the extra money, I explained that in my experience, no, and explained (when asked) what I didn't like about them.
In reading the responses, it has appeared that the person from apple who trained me, and others, in how to use macs had neglected lots of important features.
There are many books out there on the subject, and there are quite a few Mac users on here. I'm sure any one of us would be only to happy to help if you had a problem or question concerning Mac OS X.Do I still feel macs are worth the extra money? No, just as I don't feel a sony vaio or a Dell are worth the extra money.
It seems your gripe is with premium computers in general, as opposed to one particular type of pomaceous premium computer.0 -
Oh and macs being able to run windows isn't a plus point for apple, its a plus point for microsofts large hardware support. The only plus point is that apple saw sense and started using intel.
The drivers (i.e. hardware support) for using Windows on a Mac are all supplied by Apple.0
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