Spped Camera

Wig

Sillychuckie wrote:

by claiming there was a fire engine behind them and they had to roll forward to let it through (within the law)..

He may have got off the charge, but it is not within the law. I will not move across a red light now that someone has been booked for doing so. Search Honest John for more info.

MarkyMarkD

I am sure that Wig is correct, but it's OK if you are instructed to cross the traffic light by a police officer, is it not?

Wig

nic82 wrote:

I don't want to get into an argument and I know I'm moving away from the question that the OP asked, but people who say "I got out of " their speeding fines really gets me going.

YOU broke the law, so why shouldn't YOU pay up? I personally have been caught for speeding twice. I was breaking the law, so I paid up. The last time I was caught was in May 2003, so in 10 months my licence will be clear of points.

Since then, I have NEVER intentionally sped. Of course, there are occasions where I find myself going a couple of miles over the speed limit unintentionally but I always ease off. Even on the motorway I refuse to go above 70 miles an hour.

I can only imagine that someone who has been caught six times in five years has no regards for anyone on the road, least of all themselves, and that they have not witnessed, or experienced, the horrible effects that a death of a loved one caused by a speeding driver can have on those left behind.

I have, and eight months later, it hasn't got any easier.

Even if you "only" kill (or seriously injure) yourself, do you not think about the effect it would have on your family?

I just do not understand why people are proud off "getting off" a speeding fine. I bet you wouldn't be so proud if you killed someone.

Perhaps you didn't read his post, if you had you would have seen that the rules to which he refers PACE are being flouted by the government and all the good little boys and girls of the public are happily paying up mostly in ignorance that the rules of engagement are being ignored.

So where one side is prepared to flout the laws and rules of engagement perhaps it is then more understandable that some people on the otherside decide to do the same, and use whatever methods they can to get out of paying for stooopid tickets.

If you want no one to speed, the technology is there, USE IT, make it mandatory that all cars are fitted with speed limiters.

Wig

MarkyMarkD wrote:

I am sure that Wig is correct, but it's OK if you are instructed to cross the traffic light by a police officer, is it not?

I would think a police officer or a traffic warden can instruct you to cross the line. I don't think it can be automatically said just because a police car (certainly not an ambulance or a fire engine) is coming through traffic behind you that this counts as an "instruction" to cross the line.

If government can't be bothered to spell out what we are allowed to do and what not and under what circumstances then I don't see why I should cross the line until ordered to do so.

Isn't there a new law coming in (or already in) about obstructing an emergency vehicle? Aimed at people who steal ambulances and throw rocks at fire engines etc, but this law would then conflict with the law that says you cannot cross the line unless ordered to do so.

MarkyMarkD

I think it's a messy bit of law, and they should make it very clear that it's acceptable to do anything reasonable to get out of the way of an emergency vehicle - including driving on the wrong side of the road, pulling onto the hard shoulder, driving on the pavement, AND going through red lights - but obviously at the driver's risk in these situations if they then proceed to collide with another vehicle.

Pere_Ubu

Thanks to everyone for replies. I didn't receive a ticket as yet. It has been in excess of 2 weeks so I am presuming that there was no film in the camera. Since the camera scenario I got a parking ticket. This was down to the same child only this time he wasn't choking on a sweet I had to stop in Tescos to breast feed him in thier mother and baby romm. The traffic warden who booked me was really nice. He said if I had made it back to the car just moment earlier he wouldn't had issued the ticket but as I was he had entered the data etc. However, he made a note of the fact that I was delayed by my breast feeding son.