Public Sector workers laughing all the way to the bank

donaldtramp

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6915027.ece#comment-have-your-say

The madness continues....
When is someone going to swing the axe???
I'm sick to the back teeth of seeing people I know (family and work colleagues) being laid off and have wage cuts as private companies struggle to stay afloat and balance the books.
Then articles like this come along and I have to read all about the wage rises the public sector are receiving, their massive, unfunded, pension black hole and threatening to go on strike if they don't get what they want, holding us to ransom in the process.
It absolutely stinks.

From The Times November 13, 2009

Public sector workers laughing all the way to the bank Ian King and Tom Bawden
A typical public sector worker now earns £74.20 a week more than his or her private sector counterpart, it emerged yesterday.

Figures published by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed that pay rises in the public sector were more than three times those in the private sector during the past year.

The Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings (Ashe) said that, in the year to April 2009, the weekly pay of full-time employees in the public sector was typically £539 — up 3.1 per cent on 2008.

For the private sector the figure was £465 — up 1 per cent in the same period. Other ONS figures emphasised the growing disparity between the public and private sectors.

For example, hospital and health service managers received an average pay rise of 5.8 per cent, while police officers had rises, on average, of 3.1 per cent and secondary school teachers of 2.9 per cent. Veterinarians, however, had their pay reduced by an average of 16 per cent; shopkeepers’ pay fell by 8.2 per cent, and bricklayers had a pay cut of 7.9 per cent.

It is the first time since the ONS began making the comparisons in 1997 that public sector salaries have outstripped private sector pay by so much. Public sector pay rose at its fastest rate on record in the year to April.....
It continues....

treliac

How did your pay change over the past year, dt?

Graham_Devon

Hmmmm.

The article refers to Bricklayers, and shopkeepers.

Two professions which are mostly self employed and directly effected by the recession, unlike health service managers or policeman.

I'd like to know how the ONS figure it out. If a self employed bricklayer made 40k in 2006, but made 25k in 2008 due to house building all but stopping, do they class that as a pay cut?

If so, it's a ridiculous way of comparing the private sector wages with the public sector wages.

The private sector will always take more of a hit in recession times. But on the contrary, they will always take more from a boom too. It's just the way it goes.

sjaypink

Who cares. After years of working for various companies for !!!!!! money I've finally bagged a civil service job.... for, er, !!!! money.... :cool:

They both have their pros & cons, good & bad times. If your not happy then look to change.

the_ash_and_the_oak

If you like the payrises of the public sector you should apply for a job in the public sector imo

Graham_Devon

the_ash_and_the_oak wrote: »

If you like the payrises of the public sector you should apply for a job in the public sector imo

You may then realise that along with I'd guess 98% of public sector workers, you are not laughing all the way to the bank at all.

the_ash_and_the_oak

Graham_Devon wrote: »

You may then realise that along with I'd guess 98% of public sector workers, you are not laughing all the way to the bank at all.

Thats why he's not going for a job in the public sector imo

donaldtramp

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Hmmmm.

The article refers to Bricklayers, and shopkeepers.

Two professions which are mostly self employed and directly effected by the recession, unlike health service managers or policeman.

I'd like to know how the ONS figure it out. If a self employed bricklayer made 40k in 2006, but made 25k in 2008 due to house building all but stopping, do they class that as a pay cut?

If so, it's a ridiculous way of comparing the private sector wages with the public sector wages.

The private sector will always take more of a hit in recession times. But on the contrary, they will always take more from a boom too. It's just the way it goes.

No Graham.
It was

based on a 1 per cent sample of records held by HM Revenue & Customs,

Not just bricklayers and shopkeepers. They were 2 examples. It was a 1 percent sample across the board. And across the board, the private sector is losing out. That's what you get for allowing mouthy unions to get their way
Not ridiculous in the slightest is it?
As for it being the way it goes, the liabilities of the unfunded and massively unsustainable public sector pensions will affect generations of British citizens.

donaldtramp

As for all the usual nonsense about "why don't you just go and work in the public sector?"

You just don't get it. I do NOT want to work for them.
I am sick of seeing the private sector being mugged with tax and creating massive future liabilities for our country instead of facing up to the mess we are in.

zappahey

donaldtramp wrote: »

That's what you get for allowing mouthy unions to get their way

Which is quite a long way from the reality, which is that the govt has been insistent upon multi-year pay deals as a way of imposing restraint in the boom years.

This is the result.

jamespir

why dont they give nurses and doctor these bonuses theyre much more deserving