Urinating on compost heap on radio 2

Lotus-eater

lostinrates wrote: »

You'll always be an eco fairy to me.

Banning green collection and your homegrowing ideas are fab, but probably penalise the porrest in society, in starter flats, sheltered housing and retirment flats with no access to gardens, in area where there are long waiting lists for allotments.

Give everyone that wants it allotment land, I'm sure we have it to spare. Not everyone needs or wants a full size allotment. We have massive gardens sitting there doing nothing but being a lawn, either I wave my wand and people start being kinder and sharing the land........... or I bloody well force them to do it.

lostinrates wrote: »

If we are eco fairies do we gets wings and wands? Can I wear heels as part of my outfit? Can my costume be worn all week long and in public?

Yes, yes and yes :kisses3:

what is it with women and shoes :rolleyes:

Lotus-eater

rhiwfield wrote: »

Done!

(not that you've been at the magic mushrooms )

Ouch, my true likeness is revealed at last!

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Give everyone that wants it allotment land, I'm sure we have it to spare. Not everyone needs or wants a full size allotment. We have massive gardens sitting there doing nothing but being a lawn, either I wave my wand and people start being kinder and sharing the land........... or I bloody well force them to do it.

In all seriousness, how do you force, say, a single parent with kids and a fulltime job, struggling for time as it is to take on more? Or some one balancing a fulltime job and second job, or education, or a caring role?

A garden is not so bad, you don't spend time getting there, you can do five or ten minutes here and there if need be, if you have to drive to an allotment thats not eco friendly, if its less than fifteen minutes walk away thats still half an hour gone...before anything is done.

Many, many more people could grow than do, I agree, and this should be encouraged. Gardening is good for people, its good for the ground, its good for the bees etc etc, its highly educational: both practically about plants/growth/weather but also about responsibilty and fruits of labour. I'm 100% behind encouraging people to garden, but while I love the sound of your plan I think the people who would suffer from it are those already hardest pushed.

(what is with women and shoes? I've known a few men who don't mind them, and while they ruin our feet and backs they tone our legs and insides.)

Smoffi

Im not a single parent but i am a parent... i have learnt that i can mix both my veggie patch and my full time job and my 7 yr old... I try and get her outside with me and digging, planting and learning... its relaxing quality time...

Alot of people, whoever you are, need to learn to stop, relax and look at the simple things in life we have which many people dont...

Now for peeing on the patch... Very eco friendly.. why should we have the social stigma on taking a walk to the compost bin and taking a pee!!

its more natual than sitting on a toilet and flushing it... wasting all that water..time, effort and chemicals to treat the sewage and then repump it around the pipes back to our taps.
God made us this way and we should get back to nature and do things properly

Lotus-eater

lostinrates wrote: »

In all seriousness, how do you force, say, a single parent with kids and a fulltime job, struggling for time as it is to take on more? Or some one balancing a fulltime job and second job, or education, or a caring role?
I'm 100% behind encouraging people to garden, but while I love the sound of your plan I think the people who would suffer from it are those already hardest pushed.

Well you can't force them ......... and now you are making me feel guilty. In an ideal world, kids would all have 2 loving parents and neither would work too hard.
I don't have all the answers, I just know something needs to be done. Flats should have an area of garden for each one built, houses should come with minimum sized gardens, Cadburys had the right idea, build houses with space for a vegetable garden and a fruit tree or two.

lostinrates wrote: »

(what is with women and shoes? I've known a few men who don't mind them, and while they ruin our feet and backs they tone our legs and insides.)

Don't get me wrong, I love women in sexy shoes I'm just not sure why an almost cult status has grown up about them, in women.

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Well you can't force them ......... and now you are making me feel guilty. In an ideal world, kids would all have 2 loving parents and neither would work too hard.
I don't have all the answers, I just know something needs to be done. Flats should have an area of garden for each one built, houses should come with minimum sized gardens, Cadburys had the right idea, build houses with space for a vegetable garden and a fruit tree or two.

EEk, didn't want to make anyone feel guilty. I agree, something shoud be done, also ythink Cadbury had right idea, and about ideal situation for children,...just the world isn't ideal.

My simple answer is that my generation needs t take the pain for pensions, and we need to have fewer people, i.e. fewer children, so that in the future our resources are spread less thin. as wellas a home and a garden, I'd love future generations of children to be able to go to areas of land where they can get away from everything, ligt pollution, houses, and have peace...something becoming very, very rare here.

I love women in sexy shoes I'm just not sure why an almost cult status has grown up about them, in women.

first part of that sort of answers a lot of the second half.

Megansmum

Hi All,

I hope you don't mind me joining in this discussion!

Is it true women can fertilise plants with their pee?

In this day and the way society is now - I think the more eco fairies the better! :A

I am 36 and whilst my parents worked and did the best they could I grew up without knowledge of growing ...well anything! This also meant I learnt nothing of cooking fresh food etc.

This in turn meant I had no knowlege to pass on to my daughter (now 17 eats little fruit and/or veg.

Determined that my bundle of surprise (2 yr old dd) would do better than us all I came on here and other gardening sites and this year began learning myself to use my garden for growing fruit and veg ( AND PLEASE BELIEVE ME - I WAS THE MOST ADAMANT PERSON BEING ANTI-GARDENS AND ANTI-GROWING FOR 35 YEARS!!) :rotfl:

Dd2 loved helping pick strawberries, carrots, blueberries and potatoes this year , she eats a massive range of fruit and veg (prefering them to chocolate......:eek: Lol) She will grow up enjoying the fresh air ,home grown fresh food, free exercise and learning about our environment.

I can't think of a better gift you can give a child whether you are a one or two parent family, rich or poor. Doing this costs as much or as little as you want it to. There are free things out there - we all know about freecycle etc. Seeds and compost can be cheaper than buying the food from a shop and your time is and always should be free.

People who "have no time" could probably tell you in great detail the latest happenings on eastenders or "i'm a celeb" or " x factor" etc - time is found if you are prepared to make changes to your old routine! :mad: (sorry if this opinion upsets anyone!)

By the way, we are a 2 parent family - dh is disabled, we are on benefits, I am studying at college, dd2 is a handful.......... but her, our and the environments wellbeing will (since end of 2008) be a bigger priority to me than anything, and I believe growing your own, recycling, composting etc is the way forward.

It SHOULD be compulsory!!! :mad:

Rant over!!

Smoffi

Now lets wait for the first person to put a pipe from the upstairs loo down to the patch/compost bin ..forget the bucket!!
Hardcore Pee'ers do it mid winter <-- what a Tshirt

Lotus-eater

I once tried a range of t-shirts online, with slogans like

"Dedicated composter" , "I (heart) composting"

and other humorous gardening quotes, didn't sell one

Don't know about you Smoffi, but it's a hell of alot easier to do it in a watering can for me, rather than install a pipe!

choille

I used to live somewhere where I had a dry toilet, should say toilets as you shouldn't mix the liquid with the solids - was fine, didn't smell. Used saw dust over the top of the solid bucket & emptied it into a special bin - just for solids regularly. Visitors were very shocked - some couldn't handle it! Not handle it literally, just couldn't face having to use a loo that didn't flush.
That's how far people have become from their own waste.
Wee I dilute 1:20. I don't know if women who are on the pill should do this or not.
In the Spring I cram a bucket with nettles (before they have flower heads) wee into that & dilute 1:20 once it's sat for a couple of weeks.
If you have a lot of leaves - I have a lot of Birch leaves - I have a circular bin made of chicken wire to hold them together - pour the bucket of wee on that. It is amazing the wonderful, quick compost that it turns into.