The harsh truth about Tory policies

abaxas

ghanagirl wrote: »

When the Benefit, Pension and NHS systems were created there was nothing for the ordinary poor people of this country who were paid pennies when working and nothing when they became old or ill and had to rely on charity to survive.
Now these systems are available to all no matter how rich you are and thats the problem, these systems are being exploited by the rich who can pay for their own pensions and medical / health needs yet choose to claim from these systems.
so for my 2p worth as the saying goes
Anyone who earns over £50.000 should loose the following
State Pension, Free NHS treatment, Child Benefit, Tax Credits,
and they should have to get their own Medical insurance and pension.

Buy a million pound house rent it out to the council to pay for it.
Prince Charles breaks his arm and has NHS treatment.
These are the things we as a public should moan about and stop.

As for Mctavish and his pathetic moaning about car speeds and the amount of time he works which by the way is breaking the EU work time directive.
For 50 years drivers have been asked to lower their speeds to comply with the law but they refuse. now is the time for the government to limit the capable speeds of motor vechilces to 80 mph.

As a sister to a soldier who has done 3 tours of Iraq and 2 of afghanistan who as we speak according to the M.O.D is having a break from combat by being posted to Cyprus before going back to afghanistan in march.
i have nothing but contempt for Jacqui Janes and The Sun newspaper, they only wanted a story to hit Gordon Brown and she went along with it, her son's name will always be in the shadow of this story and his bravey and death will always come second. Your in mourning and the PM PHONES YOU and the 1st thing you do is record the phone call. :mad:

Can I add:-

Anyone earning over 50k should lose the automatic rights to employment law.

Why should be 'protect' those who dont need protecting.

Braveheart100

wolvoman wrote: »

I work very hard for a good wage, WHY should I then have to pay twice for healthcare??? Why should I subsidise, even more than I do now, someone who CHOOSES not to work.

I can only assume you are jealous of those successful in life and want to bring those of us who are, down to your level.

Agree. The well off are entitled to use the NHS, etc since they do indeed put enough into it.

StevieJ

treliac wrote: »

Yes, but why is he quite so inept in the first place?

I agree, I don't think that Sun editor will last long.

wolvoman

Braveheart100 wrote: »

Agree. The well off are entitled to use the NHS, etc since they do indeed put enough into it.

And let's be sensible here. If the poster said something about the super rich, maybe those earning in excess of £500k a year then more people would agree.

But £50k is not a huge salary, especially in London.

wolvoman

abaxas wrote: »

Can I add:-

Anyone earning over 50k should lose the automatic rights to employment law.

Why should be 'protect' those who dont need protecting.

Why do they not need protecting?

abaxas

wolvoman wrote: »

Why do they not need protecting?

Becasue they should protect themselves.

Opps I forgot, I'm a bad man for thinking people can look after themselves, without the state.

Conrad

When you poke the rich Bankers, remember many BBC staff earn more than Bankers. Good socialists such as Kirsty Walk. Then don't forget those ardent socialists such as Ben Elton and Lenny Henry worth tens of millions.

Picking on Bankers is easy and lazy.

LizEstelle

Mr_Mumble wrote: »

Gosh, comparing economists to Hitler! Godwin's law dictates I win the argument.

edit: darn-it Hamish didn't see your comment up there :beer:

And Liz's Law, which states that answering a serious point with a desperation-born, attention-deflecting quip, dictates that you lose.

Loading your statements with partisan opinion dressed as fact gets you nowhere with the eagle-eyed or frankly, even those with eyes.

lostinrates

ghanagirl: my guess is your soldier sibling also ocasioanally break EU work time directive, is it an exempt profession? Lots of the jobs of high earners are exempt....for societies benefit.

wolvoman

abaxas wrote: »

Becasue they should protect themselves.

Opps I forgot, I'm a bad man for thinking people can look after themselves, without the state.

I agree. But why can't all but the very poor look after themselves?

And why £50k? It is way below the average City salary and just about the average salary in London.

Maybe if you live in some rural part of Wales, £50k suggests being rich - eolsewhere it isn't.