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The harsh truth about Tory policies
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BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »Not as condescending as telling you, you can't spell?:rolleyes:
Looks like I am in good company with the PM.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/09/gordon-brown-misspelled-soldiers-name
Listening to the radio it looks like this one is backfiring badly on the Sun newspaper.
Even the Sun readers are having a go, just look at the comments below the article.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2722174/Jacqui-Janes-Mr-Brown-listen-to-me-My-son-could-have-survived-but-he-bled-to-death.html'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
LizEstelle wrote: »Yep, I dare say Hitler would have wanted to have his 'side of the argument' presented to students....
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What is it with you and Hitler?
You do realise, BTW, that you lose the argument immediately when you resort to using Hitler, Nazi, Stalin etc......“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
No-one (except maybe Hamish) wants to see any child live in squalid conditions or go hungry.
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I don't want to see that.
What I want is for people not to breed unless they are in a financially secure enough position to raise their children.
That way they don't need to spend MY money to do so.
Simple solution..... Explain clearly to all young people that they can only take out from the system an amount equal to what they have paid in to the system in National Insurance. (Barring some unfortunate disability or accident, obviously)
Which would equate to roughly 4 years of benefits, per person, per working lifetime.
Not working will simply not be an option in the future.
No more breeding for benefits.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Gosh, comparing economists to Hitler! Godwin's law dictates I win the argument.LizEstelle wrote: »Yep, I dare say Hitler would have wanted to have his 'side of the argument' presented to students....
edit: darn-it Hamish didn't see your comment up there :beer:"The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.0 -
edit: darn-it Hamish didn't see your comment up there :beer:
I love Godwins law.....
And hitting the thanks button would have been so much less effort than typing an edit....:D“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »No more breeding for benefits.
To be fair to people in that situation - it's been an easier option for some to go down that route, so obviously they have done just that.
Sadly, it's been one of the main reasons it's been impossible to make progress in reducing child abuse - when children have in effect become a commodity for a section of society.
This government is the masterclass in unintended consequences. But then of course they are also the experts in deflecting blame.0 -
Looks like I am in good company with the PM.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/09/gordon-brown-misspelled-soldiers-name
Listening to the radio it looks like this one is backfiring badly on the Sun newspaper.
Even the Sun readers are having a go, just look at the comments below the article.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2722174/Jacqui-Janes-Mr-Brown-listen-to-me-My-son-could-have-survived-but-he-bled-to-death.html
Yes, but why is he quite so inept in the first place?0 -
When the Benefit, Pension and NHS systems were created there was nothing for the ordinary poor people of this country who were paid pennies when working and nothing when they became old or ill and had to rely on charity to survive.
Now these systems are available to all no matter how rich you are and thats the problem, these systems are being exploited by the rich who can pay for their own pensions and medical / health needs yet choose to claim from these systems.
so for my 2p worth as the saying goes
Anyone who earns over £50.000 should loose the following
State Pension, Free NHS treatment, Child Benefit, Tax Credits,
and they should have to get their own Medical insurance and pension.
Buy a million pound house rent it out to the council to pay for it.
Prince Charles breaks his arm and has NHS treatment.
These are the things we as a public should moan about and stop.
As for Mctavish and his pathetic moaning about car speeds and the amount of time he works which by the way is breaking the EU work time directive.
For 50 years drivers have been asked to lower their speeds to comply with the law but they refuse. now is the time for the government to limit the capable speeds of motor vechilces to 80 mph.
As a sister to a soldier who has done 3 tours of Iraq and 2 of afghanistan who as we speak according to the M.O.D is having a break from combat by being posted to Cyprus before going back to afghanistan in march.
i have nothing but contempt for Jacqui Janes and The Sun newspaper, they only wanted a story to hit Gordon Brown and she went along with it, her son's name will always be in the shadow of this story and his bravey and death will always come second. Your in mourning and the PM PHONES YOU and the 1st thing you do is record the phone call. :mad:0 -
When the Benefit, Pension and NHS systems were created there was nothing for the ordinary poor people of this country who were paid pennies when working and nothing when they became old or ill and had to rely on charity to survive.
Now these systems are available to all no matter how rich you are and thats the problem, these systems are being exploited by the rich who can pay for their own pensions and medical / health needs yet choose to claim from these systems.
so for my 2p worth as the saying goes
Anyone who earns over £50.000 should loose the following
State Pension, Free NHS treatment, Child Benefit, Tax Credits,
and they should have to get their own Medical insurance and pension.
Buy a million pound house rent it out to the council to pay for it.
Prince Charles breaks his arm and has NHS treatment.
These are the things we as a public should moan about and stop.
As for Mctavish and his pathetic moaning about car speeds and the amount of time he works which by the way is breaking the EU work time directive.
For 50 years drivers have been asked to lower their speeds to comply with the law but they refuse. now is the time for the government to limit the capable speeds of motor vechilces to 80 mph.
I work very hard for a good wage, WHY should I then have to pay twice for healthcare??? Why should I subsidise, even more than I do now, someone who CHOOSES not to work.
I can only assume you are jealous of those successful in life and want to bring those of us who are, down to your level.0
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