E: 30/11 (noon) win £250 - Cash Hunt - serious help needed!

Dearsmore

crin wrote: »

I had a thought that it might be Edinburgh and not Dundee as Wishart also preached there and there was a large Irish population in Cowgate there. If you follow the road it takes you to Hibernaian footie ground founded in 1875 by a priest and the Irish settlers. This is near Waverley railway station if you then follow the line you get to Waterloo Place and Nelsons Monument and Carlton Old Burial Ground but I'm a bit stuck from there on in.

I looked into the Hibs and Hearts thing too, couldn't find any connection with dates. Obviously if he was a preacher then herd is obviously his parish members...but what old club are they trying to reach?

Christopher Columbus came up a couple of times to...

Dearsmore

Dearsmore wrote: »

All I can say is...I think this website have kept this comp going for longer to have a good laugh at us running round in circles

If anyone is looking in from cashhunt.co.uk...give us a sign if we're on the right tracks please

And ellejay, first post

One-Eye

I had also looked at Edinburgh, but more at golf than football and concentrating on Leith. It was a dead end when none of the candidates from 1744 looked promising. If anyone wants to try it again :-

Wishart at Leith http://www.leithhistory.co.uk/2008/10/31/the-story-of-dr-wishart/
Plus several others

Herd at Leith Links:-
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/leith/2.htm
“The common grazing ground for Leith was the Links, then covered with whins as well as grass. Thither, every morning at sunrise, the town herd, with sound of horn, drove the cows of the inhabitants, and there lie tended them all day till sundown.”

Herd & Old Club at Leith:-
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/scotland/edinburgh/sights/399477
“This public park was originally common grazing land, but is more famous as the birthplace of modern golf. Although St Andrews has the oldest golf course in the world, it was at Leith Links in 1744 that the first official rules of the game were formulated by the Honorable Company of Edinburgh Golfers. A stone cairn on the western side of the park bears a plaque describing how the ancient game was played over five holes of around 400 yards each.”

Old Club at Leith:-
http://www.scottishgolfhistory.net/honourable_company_edinburgh_golfers.htm
http://www.scottishgolfhistory.net/leith_links_first_golf_competition.htm

Deaths in 1744:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1744#Events_of_1744
January 23 – Giambattista Vico, Italian philosopher and historian (b. 1668)
January 26 – Ludwig Andreas Graf Khevenhüller, Austrian field marshal (b. 1683)
February 11 – Hedvig Taube
March 3 – Jean Barbeyrac, French jurist (b. 1674)
April 25 – Anders Celsius, Swedish astronomer (b. 1701)
May 30 – Alexander Pope, English writer (b. 1688)
June 29 – Andr! Campra, French composer (b. 1660)
July – Mihai Racoviţă, Prince of Moldavia and Prince of Wallachia
August 9 – James Brydges, 1st Duke of Chandos, English patron of the arts (b. 1673)
August 13 – John Cruger, Dutch-born Mayor of New York (b. 1678)
August 26 – William Byrd II, prominent planter from Virginia (b. 1674)
September 28 – Princess Th!rèse of France, estranged daughter of Louis XV of France (b.1736)
October 18 – Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough, English friend of Anne of England (b. 1660)
October 31 – Leonardo Leo, Italian composer (b. 1694)
December 8 – Marie-Anne de Mailly-Nesle duchess de Châteauroux, French mistress of King Louis XV

Dormouse

I am just desperate for this to be over now, it's driving me insane! :eek: There are so many possible answers to each clue, it's just impossible. I've spent hours looking at statues and buidlings and got nowhere! :mad:

The thing that made me laugh is that I told my DH about this treasure hunt and he said he'd crack it in 15 minutes. :rotfl: Needless to say, a week later, we're still here! :rolleyes:

Dearsmore

Dormouse wrote: »

I am just desperate for this to be over now, it's driving me insane! :eek: There are so many possible answers to each clue, it's just impossible. I've spent hours looking at statues and buidlings and got nowhere! :mad:

The thing that made me laugh is that I told my DH about this treasure hunt and he said he'd crack it in 15 minutes. :rotfl: Needless to say, a week later, we're still here! :rolleyes:

If nothing else, at least I've learned about football cubs, golf clubs, Edinburgh, Dundee, Montrose, old statues, clocks, freemasons, dates and numbers :rolleyes:

smwtyn

This is driving me insane lol. I looked at deaths in 1873 because thats when the first Open was played at St Andrews, then got to David Livingstone who has a statue in the Princess Street Gardens and then got stuck lol I give up

Dearsmore

This is what I found now, don't know if it'll help. One place George Wishart preached was Mauchline Ayrshire, football club Kilmarnock's first play was 1869, Rev.Patrick Bell died that year, he was also a farmer and invented the first reaping machine near Dundee...I can add learning about farming to my list now :rolleyes:

http://www.angusahead.com/handListingSearch.asp?Keywords=commemorate&localityName=[All]

Dearsmore

This is what I've got...hey, it's another guess!

Begin from the spot where once Wishart did speak (Mauchline, Ayrshire)

Follow the herd till the old club you reach (Ayrshire known for farming (herd?) Football club Kilmarnock)

Date play began, leader who died (Play began 1869, leader of invention of harvesters Rev. Patrick Bell died)

Find his big brother, you might need a hand (His brother helped him to develop the reaping machine, which until then was done by hand)

http://www.angusahead.com/handListingSearch.asp?Keywords=commemorate&localityName=
In this link you will see Rev Patrick Bell and George Wishart, they were both born (or famous people of) in Angus Arbroath.

George Wishart

Famous People

(b.1513 - d.1546) Lutheran Reformer and Martyr. Born in Pittarrow, near Laurencekirk (Aberdeenshire), Wishart was educated at the University of Aberdeen. He worked as a school-master at Montrose (1538), but following a charge of heresy he left to study with the followers of Jean Calvin (1509-64) in Switzerland and Germany. He returned to Scotland as part of a mission sent by the English King Henry VII (1457 - 1509) to arrange the marriage of his son to the young Mary, Queen of Scots (1542-87). He was a role model for John Knox, but taken prisoner by Cardinal David Beaton and held in the Sea Tower of St. Andrews Castle. He was burned at the stake for his faith on the street outside. Wishart is commemorated by, for example, the Wishart Arch in Dundee, from which he used to preach.

Rev. Patrick Bell

Famous People

(b.1799 - d.1869) Invented the reaping machine which was a direct precursor of the modern combine harvester. Born in Auchterhouse, near Dundee, he studied divinity at St Andrews University. Although designed in 1827, it was not until 1843 when Bell was ordained as minister at Carmyllie (near Arbroath), that the machine was brought into general use, following years of testing. His original machine was purchased by the Science Museum in London (1869), with a smaller model going to the Royal Scottish Museum (1870) which is now displayed in the Scottish Agricultural Museum. Bell's workbench and tools can be seen at the Angus Folk Museum at Glamis. He is buried at Carmyllie Church, where he is commemorated in the windows of the church.

It's 723 by the place that you chase, to wash the old window that stares on this place. (We have churches beside the Angus Glens)
http://www.angusglens.co.uk/esk/churches.php
Whatever is true, there is no doubt that St. Drostan was a powerful evangelist in the Glen. When he died his converts carried his body over the hills to the church at Aberdour of which he was patron. Lochlee is mentioned in Raymonds (Ragmans) Roll in 1287 and in 1384 it appears as a chapel in Glenesk. Sir Andrew Jolly was curate of Lochlee in 1558, and in 1563 George Hay, reader, received £13:6s:8d. in payment of his yearly service. Some time after 1587 Thomas Fullerton M.A. had charge of Edzell, Dunlappie, Lethnot, Navar and Lochlee. About 1618 Lochlee and Lethnot parishes were united and remained so until 1723.



Basically My solution is Angus Glens.

Dearsmore

A big thanks to everyone who took part in the November treasure hunt.
Well done to the winner listed below and everyone else who got the correct solution.
Please note that from December the treasure hunts are reverting back to a monthly format.
And just to put your mind at rest here’s the full solution.
The lines from the original clue are in bold and the explanations are underneath.
Begin from the spot where once Wishart did speak,
This is the Wishart Arch in Dundee. George Wishart was a 14th century protestant reformer who is said to have to have preached from there.
And follow the herd till the old club you reach.
This refers to the road where the arch stands which is called ‘Cowgate’. Following Cowgate takes you onto ‘Panmure Street’ and Panmure happens to be the name of an old golf club in Barry, Scotland.
Consider the date when the play began here,
Panmure Golf Club was founded in 1845.
Discover the leader who died in that year.
Charles Grey the 2nd Earl Grey and former prime minister of the United Kingdom died in 1845.
Now follow the line from the place where he stands,
‘The place where he stands’ is the statue of him known as ‘Grey’s Monument’ which is in central Newcastle.
To find his big brother you may need a hand.
The ‘big brother’ in question is another famous statue created by the same person ‘Edward Hodges Baily’…Nelsons Colum. Nelson famously only has one arm.
It's 723 by the place that you chase,
The 7th 2nd and 3rd letters of nelsons column are S E and L. Add by and you get Selby.
To wash the old window that stares on this place.
The window is the Washington window in Selby Abbey which features the coat of arms of the family of the first American president George Washington.
Where are you?
Selby Abbey



I'm not playing anymore

reniannen

I knew my starting point was right! lol. That was really really hard. considering the Cowgate also crosses a St Andrews Street it would have taken a lot of thinking to think to google and find the obscure Panmure club. And the 7 2 3 referring to letters, don't think I'd ever have got that argh.

Very well done to the winner and those who did get it :T

not looking forward to this months either. Not looked at it yet, too many advents