Car tax run out at 12 pm last night as

cyclonebri1

Quentin wrote: »

You get a ticket for failure to display, not a bill from DVLA!

If you say so Quentin,

Wig

The offence is 'failing to display' it is enforced by traffic wardens and police on the beat. I have seen police on the beat issuing such a ticket a few months ago. - I obviously have no idea if the car had valid VED or not and I can't remember what day of the month it was.

Whilst it is technically possible to be given a ticket. What I don't know is whether Police/wardens would 'radio in' to ask if the vehicle has a valid VED before issuing the ticket. It is likely with the new law of 5 days grace, that they would check on this if it is the first week of the month, well you'd hope this was the case, but I think we have all met some dumb police in our time, so maybe they wouldn't. The question is how likely are they to issue the ticket if the search comes back as a negative or positive. And another question would be how detailed is the information returned by the search, does it for example say what date the tax was paid for?
Another question would be how quickly does the DVLA computer update the Police computer? With all these questions being left unanswered we are wasting our time.

But we can be sure of one thing, the OPs car will not be entirely road legal until s/he displays his/her disc. Hence why some of us thought the best advice would be to wait until tommorrow and tax it at the PO and be 100% road legal from tommorow morning.

They could also drive it to a car park or other off road location for the duration of Sunday if they were particularly worried, as no VED disc would be needed to be on display.

Quentin

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

If you say so Quentin,

It's a fact! (Don't shoot the messenger).

There is a reported case of someone buying their tax in good time from the po, going out to work at 8:00 am on the first of the new month, intending to swap over the old disc, (car on road), to find a ticket already on the windscreen for failure to display.

Chippy_Minton_2

Wig wrote: »

Whilst it is technically possible to be given a ticket. What I don't know is whether Police/wardens would 'radio in' to ask if the vehicle has a valid VED before issuing the ticket. It is likely with the new law of 5 days grace, that they would check on this if it is the first week of the month, well you'd hope this was the case, but I think we have all met some dumb police in our time, so maybe they wouldn't. The question is how likely are they to issue the ticket if the search comes back as a negative. And another question would be how detailed is the information returned by the search, does it for example say what date the tax was paid for?
Another question would be how quickly does the DVLA computer update the Police computer? With all these questions being left unanswered we are wasting our time.

The police information about tax is unreliable and often shows as not held. This means the tax information isn't held and not the vehicle doesn't have tax. It is an offence to fail to display even if the vehicle is taxed.

Chippy_Minton_2

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

If you say so Quentin,

Cyclonebri, what is it you find difficult to comprehend?

DaveF327

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

You do not get convicted of failing to display or having no road fund licence IF you have paid on line before being "caught", unless you can show different that is?

Correction: you do not get convicted of failing to display IF you have paid online etc. before expiry of the old licence.

There is a difference. If you've done nothing until expiry, then applying online after that won't save you. Quentin gave an example about someone being done at 8am the next day, which sounds like the person in question either bought from a post office or possibly bought it remotely before 2008 when the grace period came into force.

Vehicle_Excise_and_Registration_Act_1994_(amended_by_Finance_Act_2008) wrote:

33. (1B) A person is not guilty of an offence under subsection (1) or (1A) by using or keeping a vehicle on a public road during any of the 5 working days following the time when a licence or nil licence for the vehicle, or a relevant declaration applying to the vehicle, ceases to be in force, if an application for a licence or nil licence for or in respect of the vehicle to run from that time has been received before that time

cyclonebri1

Chippy_Minton wrote: »

Cyclonebri, what is it you find difficult to comprehend?

It's you chippy;)