another speeding ticket help

D.K.

IvanOpinion wrote:

A policeman friend of mine loves people who come up with this excuse ... he immediately bypasses the 'I am just going to give you a verbal warning' and oes straight to writing a ticket ... his attitude is that if someone has difficulty keeping an eye on the road and their speedometer then they should not be driving

ivan

With friends like yours.....

danmar_2

hollydays wrote:

What are her grounds to contest it?

she says there are no speed limit signs anywhere near where she was zapped with the gun (central milton keynes just coming down past abbey offices) and also she says that she thought she could plead for the 10% plus 2mph??? that someone has told her about personally i havent heard of it but then i dont drive??

Norma_Desmond

The Oxford English Dictionary's definition of 'speeding' in this context is (quote) '(for a motorist) to travel at an ILLEGAL or DANGEROUS speed'

Caps are mine, but argue with that all you silly people who think it's your right to endanger other motorist's and pedestrian's lives :mad:

tomstickland

A biker friend of mine told me that a policeman said to him "if we see a car speeding on the motorway and they see us then we normally think "they're paying attention and therefore are not a huge risk", if they don't see us then we book them." Very fair I thought.

tomstickland

You need to think a bit more rationally about it. It's never absolute, it's a risk distribution. It might be that travelling at 70mph down a wide A road at 5am on summer morning is less risk than doing 29.9 down a residental road.

These threads always polarise along similar lines.
Someone once got hit by a car, therefore anyone who exceees a speed limit is very very dangerous and anyone who does not is very very safe.

danio_2

danmar wrote:

she says there are no speed limit signs anywhere near where she was zapped with the gun (central milton keynes just coming down past abbey offices) and also she says that she thought she could plead for the 10% plus 2mph??? that someone has told her about personally i havent heard of it but then i dont drive??

PMSL She can't contest a speeding fine because there were no signs, She should of read the Road..(ie. built up area with street lights =30mph) if she can't read a road then she shouldn't be driving..

tomstickland

Street lights means 30mph. If it's not then there will be limit signs.
10% + 2mph is not law, it's what the ACPO guidlines were, plus all speedos overread.
It's only going to cost £60. If she was speeding then she should pay up. That's what I did.

Back onto the discussion...
if you were to put a measure of safety onto a situation you'd surely include:
-speed
-weather conditions
-driver alertness
-risk factors eg: buildings, gateways, pavements etc
-traffic levels
-pedestrian levels
-time of day
-why speed limit was set for the road

Bundle all of those together and make a judgement. This is what old-school traffic police do.

Round my area there are loads of roads that have had their speed limits painfull lowered. They're country A roads, with some wide and long straights. I think it's because they are busy during rush hour and it's to keep the opposing traffic speed difference down. You used to be able to legally travel through there at 60 and get on with it. It's now just another pointless frustration on a Sunday morning when most people are asleep. Easy solution to that though; make a judgement.

Every time I've exceeded a limit I've chosen to do it.

vickyj

Did the first 6 points not warn you enough then.
For goodness sake stop whining and take it like a man.
I drive on the motorway at ungodly hours all the time due to work and I dont want to get driven into by a speeding cab.

sarahg1969

Speeding is an absolute offence.

It's no good saying that you weren't doing 36mph, you were only doing 32mph.

They generally allow a few mph, but that's at their discretion.

If you were speeding, you were speeding. End of.

Unless, of course, the road signs were incorrect, or they didn't have the correct orders for the speed limits they've applied to the road, or whatever.

But to say you thought you were allowed to go a bit over is a complete no-no.