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nhs is a joke

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  • other
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    mrcow wrote:
    What rot!

    The OP doesn't have asthma, they have a cough which they waited three weeks before seeing a doctor for......hardly a casualty situation.

    No wonder the NHS is under so much stress with attitudes like this :confused:

    well it was hurting her chest when she did cough.
    Did we ever find out what it was, or what the medication was exactly?

    also regards to the OPs view on partnership, fair enough if what is his is his and your is yours, but I wouldn't have thought he would be thinking he's got one over you if he paid for your prescription. After all, as you pointed out, it is for your health, and not exactly a day at the spa. If money is so hard at the moment, maybe you dont need to be ;)


    Finally with regards to renewing prescriptions and stuff, if you are paying for them ie not underage or elderly etc etc, then as a responsible adult surely it is up to you to plan repeat medications, not get phone numbers lost, not be afraid to sort out your life and phone the right people to get what you need. The NHS is a pretty good health service but it is not a PA service as well.
  • jazzyjustlaw
    jazzyjustlaw Posts: 1,378 Forumite
    Moan moan moan - sorry but its like all services they are underfunded. I am not well off but I am amazed we have an NHS and have prescriptions capped. I believe it was the OP's practice that was wrong dont generalise with the NHS. Service is good and bad. They dont just sit and paint their nails you know they work hard.

    Anyway there are too many people using our services its not infinite you know. I am sorry people are waiting a while for a consultant by why do we have to blame the NHS, Government for everything, I know they should magic money, consultants and nurses out of thin air. Just think yourselves lucky some Countries do not have food let alone medicine!
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  • Poppy9
    Poppy9 Posts: 18,833 Forumite
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    The Health service like any other public service has good and bad staff. I think it's brilliant that there is a service there if you need without regard to whether you are (or ever have been) a tax payer or not.

    I appreciate that the long waiting lists are demoralising and life threatening and if you have private insurance you can be seen the same day but not everyone has a spare £100 (or often £200) to see a consultant.

    Need/demand outstrips supply so you have to queue and priorities have to be assessed.

    I could quote good examples of NHS practice and bad like most people. I do know I would rather live in this country with our NHS than the US.
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  • MissG_2
    MissG_2 Posts: 869 Forumite
    First of all thank you to all the people who have agreed with and sympathised with me regarding my problem with the NHS.

    Let’s set the record straight for the people who either can’t or won’t read my original post!!!

    1 = I suffered from a cough (not asthma) for over three weeks and not wanting to bother a doctor over such a trivial ailment I left it as long as possible (or until the pain became unbearable) before I went to take up their oh so precious time.

    2 = I have been a patient at my surgery for over 12 months now and they have failed to add me to their ever so efficient patient computer system which requires a doctor to check and sign my prescriptions.

    3 = When I visited my surgery I could only see a nurse practitioner (who was not authorised) to sign my prescription because I am not on their system nor have I had this type of condition previously.

    4 = I have tried to move DR's and I was told by the NHS this was the only surgery available within my area accepting new patients (i wonder why).

    5 = I am aware of the process for receiving a repeat prescription and I do monitor when my medication is running low but when you require a new type of medication and I cant get the prescription signed because no doctor has visited my surgery for over 5 days I am slightly stuck.

    6 = Re – My partners earnings (like I should be justifying this) we both have our own outgoings. He has his own outgoings but I didn’t specify how much his was.

    7 = my mum has been ill for a long time now to and fro-in from the doctors being told there is nothing wrong with you. She has been sent for scans, x-rays, blood tests the lot. She got sick of it and went to a homeopathic scan and was told there and then she had neuralgia, secondary liver damage, kidney damage, a problem with her red blood cells and more. She went back to her doctors and said why none of this was found out from blood tests etc was it the fact it was the end of the day and couldn’t be bothered the doctor said yes probably (the doctor actually agreed with her on that). The doctor sent her for routine blood test and they rang her a couple of days later saying they had came back abnormal, she told the receptionist what was wrong with her and made an appointment to go in to be told what she had already found out herself.

    8 = I wont go into the problems my granddad or mother in-law have experienced with the NHS.

    Don’t get me wrong I know people who work for the NHS and they do a sterling job, work very hard and earn their wages. I appreciate the service is understaffed, under funded and the staff are over worked hence my reason for calling it a JOKE!!!

    This is not an attack at any member of staff working for the NHS because they do a wonderful job; it is aimed at the government who have previously received my vote in more than one election BUT WILL NEVER EVER RECEIVE IT AGAIN.

    RANT OVER!!!!!!!!
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  • reehsetin
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    ariba10 wrote:
    I have been in hospital four times in the last twelve years. Three times for serious operations and have nothing but praise for the service and staff.

    Thank goodness we have them.
    yeah definatly agree - its not perfect but with a pretty much free system its never going to be. at least its better than the US and pretty much every other country in the world where they have to pay just to walk into a doctors. US they charge something like $500 to walk into A+E! wayhey for the NHS, rather pay the £6.65 prescription charge than the cripling charges they have to pay there
    my mums had 3 ops in the last 3 months and she chose to go NHS over private for the last one, they were GREAT the ward was GREAT the hospital is great
    not every NHS place will be good - it will never be but what other option is there, - go private. at least its better than nothing
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  • calleyw
    calleyw Posts: 9,896 Forumite
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    So where does the Government get the money from to make the NHS perfect. They would have to put up the NI. Which mean a bigger burden for people who work. And most of them don't want to pay more.

    The NHS has to support a population of approx 60 million people and only 36.6 million of working age. And not all of the working age population are working you might begin to see why the NHS is so strapped with cash.


    Does not matter who you vote in as they are all as bad as each other.


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    Calley
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  • calleyw
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    ts_aly2000 wrote:
    They stop hiring management analysts on £40k a year to find out where £5k's worth of towels have gone.

    The NHS is being throttled by constant interference. It's like us here being told how we should go to the toilet. It's also not helped by these pillocks who sue them for £1m because they tried to commit suicide and the ambulance didn't get there in time to save their paralysis (true story too). Not that I'm uncaring towards people who are suicidal but sheeesh!!

    It's not the government's job to literally run the NHS, and that's the problem.

    No, I agree it is not the governments job to run the NHS but they are providing the funding.

    And agree there are to many levels of management that are not needed. But the NHS should be run like a business not in the sense to make money but in a way that makes it more efficient. A business would not get away having so many people being paid silly wages.

    But no matter how much money is pumped in it is a bottomless pit. As there are to many people who need treatment. Maybe there needs to be review on not just how the NHS is run but how it is funded. Maybe people need to make more direct payments rather than via just from NI.

    I know this is not going to be very popular. But maybe perscription charges should be based on wages. So if you earn more you pay more for your drugs. As the charge is very small compared to the cost of the drugs. My husband is asmthamtic and he got a 3 month ppc and it has paid for itself at least two to 3 times over. As he also takes nose drops for another condition and needs antibotics before he has any dental work done. Plus he got an ear infection. With out the PPC I dread to think what it would have cost in perscription charges.

    If I had the money I would go private as much as possible. When my husband need a CAT scan we paid £300:eek: . It was in a NHS hospital on the same machine as NHS patients would be scanned. And we got the appointment in weeks and not 6 months it would have taken on the NHS. It took 10 mins to do. So why did cost £300 I have no idea.

    I agree with the suing thing as well. As people go I will sue the council/education authority etc. Yes all very well and nice but don't you realise that that is taking money away from the services. As they have to put that money aside to cover things like that.

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    Calley
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  • fannyadams
    fannyadams Posts: 1,752 Forumite
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    If the NHS IS a Joke -
    How come there are so many people in the UK enjoying FREE treatment when they haven't made any contributions?
    But because I work full time I have to PAY for my treatment (cuz what I have won't kill me)
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  • mrcow
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    MissG wrote:


    4 = I have tried to move DR's and I was told by the NHS this was the only surgery available within my area accepting new patients (i wonder why).

    The only thing I can suggest to to keep trying every few months. Your local surgery sounds like a complete shower :confused:
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  • cookiemonster25
    cookiemonster25 Posts: 2,215 Forumite
    I've had to wait several days (on more than one occasion) to get a repeat prescription for a steroid inhaler - even though I made the practise aware that I had completely run out (and yes, I know that I should monitor it better, but life happens :p ).
    this makes me chuckle, you berate the NHS for you having to wait several days for an inhaler( more than once as you point out.....) the reality is you did not plan that you would need a new inhaler and you are correct"life happens" however you dont take the same attitude for having to wait 48 hours for a prescription...well life happens!!!the reality is it was yor fault you ran out of inhaler not your GP's ( an as you point out it was not a one off)
    one of the reasons that we have to wait 48 hrs for prescriptions is about patient safety, addictive drugs etc have been dished out in the past all too easily by stressed GP's who have impatient patients (pardon the pun) breathing down their necks, this gives them some time to review notes etc
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